Are you keeping your Framework laptop?

I’m a month into my usage and I love it. It’s replacing an older refurbished Thinkpad T430, and apart from the future-shock (USB-C! Thunderbolt! Bluetooth that isn’t garbage! Integrated graphics that can DO THINGS!), it’s still held up to my abuse.

It’s comforting to realize that I have full control over my machine, that it’s easy to repair, and that I can source parts reliably. Thanks Framework, you have a happy user. :slight_smile:

…I won’t be buying a vPro wireless module again, though…

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Keeping both we have. Other family members would be getting Frameworks when they’re up for laptop replacements.

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Let me explain more about the context.

Framework Laptop with a current battery drain or battery life can be okay with a case of using at home or a predicable low risk travel such as that you buy a flight return ticket and book hotels in advance.

But it’s not okay for me to do a risky travel such as that you continue to buy one way flight ticket from point A to point B each time immediately before flying to another country or city or go to a small city or a developing country where a public transport or electricity is poor, and accidentally you may have to walk 10 km from now as you can not find a vehicle, or may have to live over a night without accommodation. In that cases, a battery life of the laptop affects literally own life, right? Let’s say, you survived one night without accommodation, then you try to book today’s accommodation or ask someone for help by using Framework Laptop, then you notice a battery life of the laptop is zero due to a battery drain. This is a bad scenario. That’s why I am still waiting a improved battery drain, and battery life to be used as a dairy driver.

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I want a Framework since the very beginning, but like many others I’m still waiting for it to sell in my country so I’m keeping an eye from time to time on eBay for a deal, and most of the time, there are 1 our 2 for sale, then I noticed an increase on eBay lately witch got me curious.

On one hand there is new hardware out there and some ppl just can’t wait to get it, on the other hand, owning a Framework looks like a way of life, why getting anything else when u can just upgrade it down the road, I guess those who don’t want to keep a framework couldn’t make it work for their needs.

I’m still using a Thinkpad T430 and as Desktop a HP Z420 workstation (10+ year tech), upgraded with everything that could be done to keep then usable.

Nothing in the market checks all the boxes I’m looking for, but Framework is close, I just need some more iGPU power for light gaming, I guess by the time it gets to my country, AMD will be available as an option :smile:

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But there is, reported, by multiple users. It’s supposed to be fixed in 3.08 (alpha)…but it has yet to be ‘released’.

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Sure? I think a battery drain happens in BIOS 3.07 or earlier. See Battery slowly drains when completely shut down . And it seems it was fixed on 3.08.

Because I am lazy to shut down. Sleep is convenient to continue to work even in a short down (spare) times. I want to keep opening terminals and browsers related to developing, reading or writing work. I find down time, then work on it. I find another down time, then work on it again. The down times are such as ones for waiting a food in a restaurant or a cafe, or waiting or getting on a train or airplane.

Or even at home, I start to use a laptop, then I stop a laptop, then start to read a book, then start to use a laptop again, then stop a laptop and start to eat something… Sleep is good.

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Will be keeping forever - I currently have an old Thinkpad I use only for banking / mortgage so when this thing is no longer relevant for daily driver at work I have a really good option for a spare machine for that use case.

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I have had my framework (diy) for just over 2 months and am very pleased with it, I have had a problem with the camera module but that was quickly resolved by support. So yes I will be keeping my framework laptop for a long time.

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Keeping mine. No issues as I’m using Windows and I don’t bother with ‘power saving’ features as I feel they are obsolete in the age of super fast NVMe storage.

The only ‘annoyance’ I have is that Framework could have mentioned to European buyers that they should buy all the expansion cards they need with the initial order as buying any more will be 6+ months away.

I do admit however, it doesn’t feel as ‘throw-about’ as my old Dell Lattitude, but what does?

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No this was the day after the Batch 8 in late February we realised we had no Euro marketplace.

It’s still 'Coming Soon!" Fingers crossed.

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I’m returning mine, as it has proven unusable because it constantly freezes even when using components that are officially listed as compatible. Very disappointing experience.

Definitely keeping mine. I’ve been running pretty smoothly with Arch Linux and Windows on an expansion card, and I look forward to being able to upgrade parts in the future. I’m especially excited for the possibility of coreboot on the horizon – tinkering with the firmware would be an exciting opportunity!

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Thought I’d do an update: I managed to narrow down the freezing problem on my own to some issue with the video (loading the Intel driver would reliably cause the computer to freeze within a few minutes, but passing nomodeset to the kernel avoided this problem). After some correspondence with the Framework support team, they shipped me a replacement mainboard, which I swapped in for the one I originally had. The freezing problem is gone and everything is running quite smoothly on Fedora 36, so I thought it might be worthwhile to say that I’m not going to be returning the laptop after all. I appreciate the helpfulness of the support team; I can only assume that I was unlucky enough to get a bad board in my original order.

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@Jerry_Vinokurov
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Im also using fedora and have to switch the Mainboard and already got a new one from support.
Did you have to do a clean install of fedora after the Mainboard Switch or did it just work with the new mainboard? My fedora installation is LUks encrypted and Secure Boot is on.

I bought the Framework to support them and the direction they are representing and will be keeping the laptop but I’m not 100% satisfied. I feel like this is generation 1 life and I’m OK with that as long as most significant problems can be fixed and future versions ship without them.

Main issues for me are:

Battery drain issues:
A significant shortcoming of a portable machine and limits it flexibility as a laptop.

Speakers:
Downward firing muddy and muffled. They are a real weak point if you use them.

Ports:
Four ports is a bit limiting, if the dual ports per card come to fruition that would be great.

Overall I think Framework are doing a good job but there are some teething issue I’m hopeful will be fixed. Mostly I am really excited and impressed with the community around the laptop, the benefits of a knowledgeable community of users with a laptop like ours is amazing for everyone involved.

@t6rwowWK No, I didn’t do a clean reinstall. I just popped in the new board and it booted up without any problems. Not sure if SecureBoot would change this, I had it turned off.

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Keeping it! It has become my daily driver and I’m even contemplating upgrading the motherboard.

I have some issues but I haven’t updated the BIOS since I got it (I’m waiting for the 3.08 version)

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This is what has royally *cked Purism. This is why Framework gets my money and why Purism doesn’t. Go have a look at their forums, see how many threads on Reddit and on their forums are devoted to finding out when and if customers will get their orders.

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Keeping mine. Like a number of comments above, the laptop has a few issues, the biggest being battery life. That said, it’s got so many great points beyond the ease of repair and ease tp upgrade. I love the keyboard, I think it’s one of the best laptop keyboards I’ve used and the screen is excellent.

The main reason is that I just love the idea of it. Framework just do the things I want tech companies to do and I don’t mind putting up with a few imperfections. The only other laptop I’ve ever had which I loved this much was a Dell M6600 which I’ve had for many years but was no where near as portable. Parts have failed a few times over the years and I’ve been able to replace them which is just a great feeling. I’ve upgraded bits of it too which is also wonderful.

I’m hoping my Framework will be the same and now the 12th gen mainboards have been announced, it’s looking promising!

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I’m definitely keeping mine.

I’ve had it as my daily driver since batch two and have never thought about returning.

Have I had issues? Sure. But mostly Linux issues and not specifically hardware related. I am currently running it dual booting Windows/Manjaro both encrypted without issues. Hardware appears to be working 100% in both.

My main use cases, aside from normal every day stuff, are coding / virtualization / other scientific stuff and it is great for that. I went with the 1185G7 with 64GB of ram and it’s been a dream. It takes a lot but I do max it out from time to time. I’m really excited for the Gen. 12 boards.

My only use case it doesn’t handle is gaming due to lack of a dedicated GPU. But honestly I’m pretty impressed with how much I can push the iGPU. And for everything else that can’t run on it I sometimes use GeForce Now (it has a free tier also) and I also have a ProxMox server with a 2060 in it passed through to a Windows VM.

I’ve also been a Linux user for a very long time and most companies ignore that market segment. It makes me really happy that Framework is pro-Linux.

But honestly in my old age (think I’m 37 now), I’m getting really tired of buying products from companies and having them be not what they said they would be. And if something breaks, having the company not stand behind their products and leaving their customers out to dry. Then when their customers go to try and fix it, find out they can’t because everything is as anti-consumer as it can be.

With Framework I got exactly what they said I would. It worked as I expected it to. And I’ve only ever seen them go above and behind to help their customers.

So for me at least, there are lots of good reasons to be a Framework owner and I’m happy and proud to be. :slight_smile:

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