Similar thing. Mine is still in Winnipeg, in the “Clearance delay - Import” state, since last Wednesday. It’s starting to become annoying…
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Mine say “International shipment release - Import” but hasn’t moved from that state since Friday morning.
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It’s not so much that the fan is kicking in too often, it’s just purring a bit at low speeds. lm_sensors isn’t finding fan speed, but it’s pretty quiet, just a little crunchier than I’m used to.
Shipped July 27, originally scheduled to arrive August 3rd. It arrived in Winnipeg on Friday (the 5th). I got lucky!
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Hello batch 1,
Could you tell us if any of the major problems related to 2021 model are still there ?
1 - RTC battery failure
2 - Wifi bad signal
3 - Modules power drain
Select problems you have with 12th gen laptop (If any!) :
- RTC battery failure, not powering on
- Wifi 2.4GHz speed
- USB C and module & laptop power drain
0 voters
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Has anybody gotten Netflix UHD playback to work via Displayport? (Or any other HDCP 2.x protected playback for that matter)
It works via HDMI (so technically still displayport + adapter). But if you attach the same monitor via Displayport, Netflix will either crash with an error or simply play FHD (and I know the monitor supports this via Displayport, because I have used it before with other devices, one of which was an Alder Lake desktop system with iGPU).
To understand, this is a DP-DP connection or are you using HDMI-DP? In the case of an adapter being used I believe there are caveats involved with HDMI-DP.
If no adapter then maybe it’s just down to some bad design on Netflix’s side? I use a DP-DP connection on my main machine (Desktop) and I actually never seem to get more than FHD on Amazon Prime streaming despite my monitor being 4K now that I think of it.
Hope the above helps.
Best Regards,
Varg
USB-C to HDMI adapter is what actually works (which is using a DP connection into the active adaptor of course), but the native DP connection (using a USB-C to C cable into the same monitor) is what fails. That’s the weird part.
The same monitor also using USB-C /DP is the way to get my old Dell XPS 9500 to work with Netflix UHD though (because with Comet Lake there seemed to be a bug, where Netflix crashes when trying to stream UHD on the integrated UHD display, but magically starts working, if you attach an external HDCP 2.x display in addition to the internal one). Seems like either Netflix or Intel drivers are bugged, because my Alder Lake desktop is also refusing UHD playback on that monitor, even though it previously worked. But my desktop has the additional complication of an Nvidia GPU, which Netflix now seems intent on using for decoding, no matter which monitor its on, so I’ll give it a pass until I test with the Nvidia GPU no longer in use there…
Yeah, with Prime on PC I have also never seen that. Do they claim support for it anywhere?
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Honestly, thinking about this and being completely ignorant of how these streaming technologies work, I’m going to put it down to bad design on their part regarding whichever browser it is that you’re using. Or maybe the cable itself could be missing features despite still being compliant with HDCP? There is a video available on LTT about the subject if you are interested.
I should imagine they do as they display “UHD” on some media in the corner, I get it fine on my telly using the dedicated App .
I’ll hook up a HDMI connection on my desktop and let you know if it works fine. I also have an NVIDIA GPU so so suppose our circumstances are somewhat similar? I can test for Prime but mans here doesn’t have Netflix 4k.
Best Regards,
Varg
You may need to create a new thread for it to get the appropriate level of visibility…as opposed to buried in this thread.
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@Iann_C
My standby power consumption is between 430 and 500mW with 4x USB-C, 32GB RAM and the SN850 (Windows 11 of course). This seems considerbably lower then what has been reported in the other threads with the 11th gen. I have not tested how much the RAM influences this as my only comparison point is a Dell Tiger Lake-U device with 8 GB LPDDR4X at ~250mW and a Haswell-U device (8GB LPDDR3 150mW) in S3.
HDMI-Dongle seems to still have/cause considerable power draw (somewhere in the neighborhood of +200mW in idle, +100mW in sleep). USB-A seems to only affect sleep, not idle, displayport module also seemed to not affect idle consumption.
I had one instance where the sleep consumption was significantly higher, with the audio driver being reported as culprit, but a restart fixed it.
I have not explicitly tested 2.4GHz WiFi performance. 5GHz is on par with my XPS 15 with the Killer AX1650. Reestablishing link after sleep takes a couple of seconds too long, but that happened to the Killer card as well after Intels last driver update, so I assume it will also get faster again…
Other than that no problems observed.
Edit: 2.4GHz performance was 11-22MB/s (40MHz, with Windows File Transfers, download) in the same places where the XPS 15 with Killer AX1650 achieved pretty much the same speeds…
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@Iann_C
In my extremely scientific test of “close the lid yesterday and open it today”, I was pleasantly surprised to see the battery only dropped by 7% in about 12 hours. This is with 2xUSB-C, 2xUSB-A, SK Hynix P31 Gold, running Fedora 36 (no tweaks, standby when lid closes).
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Shipping to Toronto, Canada. Been stuck in Winnipeg - In transit - Package available for clearance since Aug 4. Anyone else experiencing this?
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I’m in a similar situation. Shipping to Chicago, IL, USA, and it’s been stuck in Anchorage, AK for 6 days now. It shipped out on July 30th, left Taiwan on August 3rd, arrived in Anchorage on the 3rd, and has sat there since with a “Clearance Delay” status.
Could anyone from Framework shine some light on what’s going on with our laptops?
Same issue for me, but laptop shipped out July26th, stuck in Winnipeg since the 4th.
I honestly don’t mind getting the laptop late, what I do mind is the 30 day return window that starts on the shipping date.
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Also shipping to Ontario, laptop has been in “International shipment release - Import” status since Friday morning.
I guess the lesson here is don’t bother buying a Framework laptop if you’re in Canada. The value proposition of a repairable laptop drops significantly if it takes 2+ weeks for parts to arrive.
Initial shipments of new high-value items aren’t the same thing customs-wise as parts. And has it taken 2+ weeks?
So I’ve used the laptop for almost 10 days and:
1 - Not (yet?) any problem with RTC battery
2 - I usually sit next to the router so I have no problem with wifi
3 - I don’t have a HDMI/DP module to test, but I made myself a logitech receiver module which constantly draws around ~0.8W, so I rarely plug it in.
However, I do notice a small problem with high power consumption of wifi. Seems like the Intel AX210 draws a bit more power than my “potato” Intel 7265 card. May need more testing to confirm…
The tracking information shows FedEx picking up the laptop on Wednesday, July 27th. Unless FedEx miracles the laptop from Winnipeg to Southern Ontario, onto a truck, and at my doorstep in the next 4 hours it will be 2 weeks.
Looks like I spoke too soon. Just a few minutes ago, the tracking page for my laptop changed to indicate that it’s in transit again, and it’ll be here tomorrow!
Thanks to everyone in the logistics team for sorting out the clearance issue!
To be fair, I when I previously orderd the 11th gen and subsequently additional parts to Toronto, the parts were in stock in the US and everything was shipped from NJ and I got it within 2-3 days.
Looks like initail batch of 12th gens are initially shipped directly from the manufacturers in Taiwan. I’m guessing my laptop just happens to be in a skid that’s delayed at customs for whatever reason.