BIOS 3.09 to replace Incomplete BIOS 3.08

Thank you for clarifying the process! This is what I wanted to see. I actually contacted the ‘upstream vendor’ by emailing their US office email address, and tried to understand why they take longer for their patch to the Framework Laptop. They explained me their general workflow to sell their BIOS firmware and to fix security issues, but unfortunately they didn’t answer me for Framework’s specific case so far.


@Insyde (if anyone from there is reading…): Chop chop.

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Sadly that @ is not a real user :frowning:

I introduced this thread to a person at the ‘upstream vendor’ 2 days ago. So, I assume they may read it.


Any chance we can get a rundown of what the update addresses? Specifically hoping for some movement on the drain during sleep (not off) issues. I’ve got a batch 1 unit that I’m really fond of, but now that the world is opening back up a bit and it’s not sitting plugged in all the time, this is the kind of deal breaker that’d lead me to sell. (Which sucks because FW is exactly the direction I’d like to see HW vendors move!)

@Matt_Simmons Did you try the kernel parameter nvme.noacpi=1? This improves your battery life with the sleep mode: s2idle remarkably. You can see Linux battery life tuning - #202 by junaruga for detail.


I’m on Fedora Linux but tempted to try the beta myself, mainly because I so frickin’ tired of having to reboot and go into bios to enable battery disconnect every time I want to shut it down.

Honestly, after being frustrated and waiting for months at this point for power related fixes, I bit the bullet and installed the unlisted 3.08 bios. At least for me, I’m no longer seeing huge power drain when hibernating or powering off the laptop.

Caveats being obviously it’s an unlisted BIOS, there’s no changelog or guarantee of anything actually being fixed, but anecdotally in limited testing it’s an improvement on the power drain.


I decided to give this a try, and this bios absolutely ate my battery up. It drains a LOT when I am literally just looking at outlook online. This is a report of this just happening.

Windows 10 I71165 32 GB Ram, 2 TB Sabrent Rocket.

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Looks like little difference between Active and Standby.

However if you mean sleep and all the same apps are running that’s not surprising as it may only switch the screen off and in my case with the screen low that is hardly significant.

What did you use to get that read out. I’ll give mine a try in standby?

That looks like the sleep study that you can use powercfg to attain:

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OK ??!! All a way bit off topic still using 3.07 I can’t see what 3.08 can offer.

Just used the powercfg /SleepStudy and am overwhelmed by the amount of info. That’s the bad news as there’s no way I’m going to get my head around even 10% of it.

The good news is, not that I am a believer, but after four months and using a min of 2 to 3 hours a day, more likely 4 to 5 and sometimes 6plus I have

Capacity Ratio 94
Cycle Count 0

Have only once done a discharge to switch off followed by 100% charge.

After the first two months I usually use when plugged in at 78% battery setting

Update: I had the opportunity to not use my laptop for 5 whole days (it was tough but I did it)… I put it in my backpack at 65% battery with BIOS 3.08 installed. After the five days i pulled it out of my bag and turned it on… still says 65% battery, running Windows 11 as primary OS. QAPLA!


Ok I’d better get that 3.08

However the other problem was the RTC that seems to ‘fail’ in a week or two

We’re now on the “The engineering team at our manufacturing partner and our internal engineering team integrate the upstream fix with our Framework Laptop-specific BIOS.” and “Our manufacturing partner and internal team validate the BIOS.” steps. Since there are changes from 3.08, this will formally be released as 3.09.


Yay, moving forward!

Any chance we can know what fixes are upcoming / included? A release note preview?

Absolutely great to hear! :smiley: Sorry to be that person, but is there a ETA timeframe of arrival? If there isn’t that’s completely fine, it’s just a nice-to-know. :slight_smile:


And … any chance it will be rolled out through fwupd as well? The boot-from-USB procedure for 3.07 was sort-of OK, but the fact it messed up to BIOS boot preferences was less than ideal. Firmware updates through fwupd for Dell XPS-13 were an absolute delight.


So far I still only have hit or miss trackpad issues. 3.08 has fixed almost everything for me outside of that. in fact I can now idle for about 13 hours under Arch. normal usage 6 to 10 hours depending on what I am doing. So its pretty close to what I expect. I am starting to think my main board or track-pad are defective though. shrugs at least I can easily fix a mechanical issue. Hope the firmware and stuff goes open too so the community can help and spot check that side too.

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Finally a big step forward! Congrats! Releasing the firmware as 3.09 is the right choice rather than overriding the 3.08, as some people already use the 3.08.