Have the sustained load (think of training with a lot of parallel dataloaders and augmentation running on the CPU, etc) temperatures and GPU/CPU clocks been announced yet? The Framework looks good, but I’m also very interested in the now announced liquid cooled ones which could have good clocks especially for the GPU.
Didn’t they say it can do sustained 120W? As such, wouldn’t that imply under Tjmax of 100c, which also means there’s no throttling? Or is that wrong?
You should be able to expect scores better than these (I would think):
CPU: 395 - Geekbench 6 CPU Search - Geekbench
GPU: 395 - Geekbench 6 GPU Search - Geekbench
i.e. You likely don’t care about the temperature…but may care about the noise during sustained load. You likely don’t care about clock speed numbers, but the performance benefit that can bring to your workload in a given time.
For example, I don’t actually care about the $100 amount…but care more about what $100 can get me.
Yes noise actually is one big reason I’m interested in the liquid cooled models. I wonder if the Framework case is compatible with an AIO? Because of the slower speeds I might have training runs going on for weeks at home, so the noise matters a lot to me.
I had an Elitedesk Mini with a RTX 4000 Ada for testing, but the jet engine - like cooling was crazy and it felt stupid to have to underpower the system a lot to manage that. So I returned that, and that 20GB was pretty slim too for my workflows.
The Framework Desktop is a mobile style APU and as such the mounting points do not fit to any desktop mounting standard. You would have to design a custom mounting plate and somehow make sure that als memory and VRM gets cooled.
In that regard it is like creating an AIO for an air cooled graphics card.
Right, good point. The popularity of Strix Halo seems already so high that I would be amazed if AMD doesn’t come up with a higher-wattage desktop product too sooner or later. But at some point one needs to commit to some product instead of waiting for the next gen And I’m specifically interested in a small form factor product with repairability, so the Framework seems good. With any kind of custom systems like those liquid cooled systems there is the risk of product abandonment.