They were already being manufactured like 2 months ago, and I’m sure the LTT factory tour was filmed even a bit before that… Maybe I’m wrong but it shouldn’t take that long to put a PCB in a box and get them ready to ship. I feel like I’m purposefully being tormented or trolled at the moment 
@ryanpetris
There have been problems with the m.2 expansion bay. Evidenced by a BIOS update being needed for them to work.
So my guess is that they wish to get the BIOS update out before trying to sell the items so that they don’t get a torrent of support emails.
I see. I’m guessing it has something to do with PCIe bifurcation? I’d imagine they’d want to get the CPU to do that rather than adding a PCIe switch to the board. If that is the case I’m guessing one of the m.2 slots does indeed work while the other slot is going to need the bios update.
If that’s the case it would still be nice to be able to get my hands on one to have another functional m.2 slot for now, and just wait for the bios update to be able to use the second port. Even if I can’t boot off of the second drive that would be fine.
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Does it even slightly work?
Our lab just dropped $100,000 on a PCB fab suite, I want to try something.
Appreciate that the absence of Destroya returning with news likely means that there is none… but I am one of who knows how many prospective customers holding off making a purchase pending the release of the M.2 expansion bay… in my case it is the one feature that takes this machine past the capabilities of my LG Gram 16, which has a pair of 2280 sockets provided.
May I ask if there would be any possibility of Frame.Work considering some form of roadmap update to the main blog? Many other tech companies do this, so not unheardof. It would be really helpful to me, from a budgeting perspective, to know when I’m going to need to have the funds ready to make a purchase.
Thanks in hope.
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I don’t think we can provide a roadmap at the moment, but I definitely understand why you are requesting this.
It sounds like the product may be severely delayed (due to technical or supply-chain issues) or just completely killed.
I really want to see more FW16 parts and software/firmware come out, but it’s been slow going after launch. Hopefully we get some cool new stuff in the marketplace for 2025… or maybe even Christmas.
I believe @Josh_Cook was working on a Dual m.2 for the expansion bay in parallel. I do not know where he has left it off at. He had a few other things he was working on too.
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Thanks for re-linking to the announcement from Josh Cook. However, the link to the purchasing page shows the price has risen from USD55 to USD88… and there’s still no image to show a finished product. There is no information on fabrication, materials, finish/quality or even that it actually works.
Don’t get me wrong - I sincerely hope that Josh is successful, but, honestly, I’d like to see some actual evidence of product shipping, and a review or two, before I commit. And just to be clear… that isn’t because I doubt Josh’s commitment in any way, but because, as explained above, I’m looking to purchase an FW16 as well. I don’t have the laptop yet - and I’m in that “chicken and egg” situation of not wanting to commit the significant cost of the laptop purchase without knowing that Josh’s bay will work…
If he gets to the point where he is shipping in bulk and there are review copies getting endorsements, that changes things. If I already owned an FW16 and was just looking for the Expansion Bay, I’d absolutely take a punt on a purchase. But I’m reluctant to order a laptop on the promise that the Expansion Bay works as claimed.
I mean no disrespect by that; just being cautious with some hard-earned pennies…
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Guess what 
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Now for sale.
Yeah, but try and find a link to order the interposer required. No link in the email, no link on the page for the board (not even a “you may also like …” type link), and trying to search the outlet shows nothing, not even when allowing it to select out of stock items.
They made a bundle
Which just adds the interposer and the board (two items) to the cart.
The (graphics) interposer is also on the market place, it’s just among the 10 billion other things they have.
Which is quite wild. And I do think, the best demonstration of this concept, is to just scroll down on the marketplace. everything is there. And anyone can just go get.
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Oh, where did you find that? It wasn’t in the original email. I’ve since found the interposer and ordered them as two separate items. It does work out to the same price thankfully, so i haven’t lost out.
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email ? You sign up for newsletter instead of just going to the website and check?
I mean … Not to judge, but … ok. I mean if they screwed up in the email, I … I don’t know.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just placed an order for one, but my enthusiasm for getting one is much lower than 6 months ago.
interesting. I am just glad that they actually made it happen.
Though there’s still no like, update and stuff. And they haven’t updated the reference design CAD file, nor are there a PCB file. But they make it now.
This “semi open source” is driving me insane
Chillax, man…
Let’s not lose sight of the fact that Framework are already three or four orders of magnitude better than every other laptop/portable manufacturer out there:-
Self repair? *Check
Upgradeability? Check
Long life support? Check
All this, sensible prices, c’mon, what’s not to like?
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Hurrah!
Wahoo!
Glad to see a release just in time for Christmas. 
The irony is that the huge datasets I have that would benefit from all of this extra storage need the GPU card to run. But at the end of the day, I’m just happy that more expansion modules are coming out. Every release makes Framework’s future look a little brighter.