hey there … i would like to see more options for the screen.
lower resolution screen (100- ppi)
the main reason is … i am 55+ and i cannot see the very little things on the screen with 200+ ppi … side effect: laptops would a bit be cheaper
Including me, many people carry battery charger anyway regardless of battery time when going out with laptop just in case.
It would be nice to have smaller capacity battery as light as possible to reduce weight. This battery is only for short and minimal usage. It is supposed to carry battery charger for long or heavy usage.
Does the macropad not adequately satisfy this desire, also echoed by @kla? It’s not pretty having extra un-used keys, but it’s functionally equivalent isn’t it?
First of all, standard TKL keyboard layout means a single module. This is different from the original keyboard with macro pad for duplication of arrow keys. This can provide much comfort experience because it is exactly same with desktop environment. For instance, you don’t mess up left Win key and Fn key because common TKL layout puts Fn key at right side. Also, in some countries including mine, right CTRL has unique roles so putting arrow keys under right shift instead of CTRL makes me uncomfortable.
Yes, it can be mimicked with macropad and as a matter of fact, I have tried this with many laptop keyboards which come with numpad using key mapping already. And, I always suffer from typo for unused keys around.
Would it be possible to offer an alternate smaller-scale keyboard for smaller hands, ideally also with a bit more spring/depth in the keys? Would smaller keys leave room for more or better extras?
Nothing like the real Arrows and INS/DEL/HOME/END/PGUP/PGDOWN above them.
Without extra keys around or other gimmicks. I had to buy a Logitech 915 TKL simply cause I cant work on laptop keyboards.
As far as I know, only the HP Omen gaming laptops (models of '21/'22/'23) have a proper TKL keyboard, and that’s what I’m going after since Frame.work is settled on AMD, no thunderbolt and silly keyboard designs.
just bought a Framework 13 AMD as a test device for our company fleet.
Since the us no way to disable Pluton in UEFI, like on Lenovo Laptop’s this is a show stopper to by additional frameworks.
I went onto a dark path (relatively speaking) and got a not-so-repairable/upgradeable laptop (testing out my options, may / may not return it). Comparing that with the FL13, I have the following wish list / request. Some I know are not generally available in the laptop market…but that’s what will make it a differentiator for Framework, not only a repaiable laptop or a repairable laptop like other laptops. I hope for a Framework laptop that is best of breed, class-leading:
OLED display option, factory calibrated.
(Near 100% for sRGB, AdobeRGB and DCI-P3. Such as the ATNA40YK20-0, though it’s not a 3:2)
Touchscreen option
NBD / overnight part shipping option (right now, even if one is willing to pay that price for overnight shipping, it’s not even a shipping option)
Esc/Fn-Lock LED indicator.
Muted speaker LED indicator.
Single hardware radio and network kill / stealth switch. (WiFi / Bluetooth / Ethernet silence)
Offer internal WWAN card option (i.e. with internal routed antenna)
Dedicated home / end / page up/down / insert keys.
Thicker chassis for:
2nd internal M.2 2280 slot.
99.9 Wh battery
More RAM modules (192GB+)
Larger heatsink
Better speakers.
Speaker placement: Up-firing or rear-firing (with bounce back…don’t know the right term for it) speakers
Move the lid close sensor to the lid away from the keyboard / lower chassis
Framework-developed graphical fan control solution (no compiling, no scripting, no config file editing), for Windows and supported Linux distro(s).
Framework-tuned speaker profile.
Microphone array with noise suppression (e.g. keyboard typing, fan noise suppression).
The only reasons I purchased a macbook over the framework are:
ARM chip (battery life)
haptic touchpad
a proper battery limiter (aldente in my case)
no screen/lid bouncing
Please just copy Dell Power Manager, and add a “stop charging” and “start charging” percentage (not just the stop percentage currently available in the framework bios).
Thank you for reading! Looking forward to picking up a framework 13 when these features become available.
Hello, I just wanted to chime in with an idea I had as well: (sorry if it has been mentioned before, I didn’t find anything when searching the forum)
I would probably buy a touch screen option if it’s available in the future; however I understand that designing/supporting/making negotiations for one more panel is an overhead that is probably not worth it yet for the team, which is understandable.
So for now I went ahead and bought an external touch screen, which gave me the following idea:
What if instead of shipping a whole 2-in-1, some progress could be made just by shipping a future laptop only with the appropriate hinges and chassis. This allows to:
Fold the laptop 360° on a desk with the keyboard facing up, to allow connecting an external screen, and eliminate the need for connecting extra peripherals
This even provides more reusability options when retiring an old device, as this setup could be an alternative for remounting the mainboard on the standalone chassis etc
Fold the laptop, to use with an external portable monitor (for using on your lap or on an airplane)
Some users might just prefer a bigger screen (e.g. I imagine there would might be even 3rd party folding screens)
Some users might want a touch screen
There is room for the community to make 3D printed designs, to externally clip these screens on the chassis.
This would probably be easier to make, since:
It splits the development cost of a 2-in-1 laptop to 2 product generations
No need to secure the supply of the touch screens right now
It could provide some insights for interest in the touch screen, e.g. maybe the folding hinge could be a customizable option when ordering
If there really isn’t any significant interest, you can still never ship a full touch screen product, while still providing the above usability options
This is a completely unrealistic dream right now, but maybe they will visit this idea in 5-10 years when they are expanding and have the money to throw around.
First, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that the framework laptop is a “developer” focused computer which isn’t exactly true from what I understand. Their modular products appeal to developers and tinkerers, but ultimately, to be successful, they have to target the general market. This is why they don’t make thicker laptops that compromise weight for battery life, keyboard travel, and I/O. They aren’t replacing Thinkpads, they are trying to replace the average consumer’s laptop. (But I may be wrong, so feel free to correct me)
But once FW is a little larger, they could maybe afford to create a more “niche” developer-focused lineup of 14-inch laptops that more resemble thinkpads. It would be a little thicker and heavier but have better battery life, a better keyboard with more travel and independent keys for home/end/insert/PgUp/PgDn/etc, a trackpoint and mouse buttons, a full-size ethernet port, LTE connection, and more. It would have all the little features people have been asking for, but that FW can’t do because they would compromise too much of what the average consumer wants/expects. It would be a productivity-focused workhorse.
Because of the slightly bigger size, it could also come with the more powerful CPU options we see in the FW16. It probably wouldn’t come with an option for a GPU unless they decided to put it on the mainboard which would go against the repairability aspect, but then again, this product line would exist to break some of the rules and constraints that other framework products are restricted to so it could be possible.