I’ve raised a support ticket with Framework, but thought it prudent to document the issues with my Sept 2024 Batch Framework 13 AMD (DIY) laptop in case others have the same problem.
October 15th
Here’s the contents of the initial support ticket I created:
I received my Framework 13 AMD about three weeks ago. It functioned well initially, but around October 9th, I began experiencing random hard crashes (screen goes black, and then the system quickly reboots).
System information:
- NixOS (stable), but tested with Fedora 40 live USB as per support guidelines - issue persists
- MediaTek WiFi card occasionally fails to load, I haven’t resolved this but the issue is preset with the card working properly, not working or disabled.
- No crash-related entries in journalctl
- BIOS v3.05 (latest); fwupd reports no available updates
- Work setup: USB-C monitor with 65W charging
- Home setup: USB-C dock driving external monitor via DP Alt Mode
Attempted solutions (unsuccessful):
- Reset BIOS Battery Charge Limit from 80% to 100%
1a. Performed “Load Optimal Defaults” in BIOS - Issue occurs primarily when connected to a charger
2a. Definitely happens at full charge; uncertain about during charging - No consistent trigger identified; occurs during various activities or idle periods
- Tested different USB-C chargers and docks, including a regular 100W charger with no other peripherals connected
- Problem affects both USB-C ports (expansion cards in rear-most bays on each side)
- RAM: 2x Team Elite 32GB 5200MHz
6a. Tested with single stick due to potential 64GB incompatibility
6b. Concerns about 5200MHz compatibility vs 5600MHz requirement (seeking confirmation) - Tested on Linux kernels v6.6.54 and v6.11.2 - issue persists
The problem only seems absent when running on battery power. I’ve conducted further tests using a portable USB-C dongle with pass-through charging and HDMI (no DisplayPort). When using this dongle to connect peripherals without power, the laptop operates normally. However, if a USB charger is connected to the dongle’s pass-through port, the crashing issue eventually returns. This isolates the problem specifically to when USB-C power is connected, regardless of the adapter or dock being used.
October 16th
I’ve now confirmed the issue is also present under these conditions too:
- Using a single stick of Crucial 32GB 5600MHz RAM
- Whilst on running on battery power
- Whilst power connect but the battery is charging
It seems this hard crash issue is far less likely to happen while under battery power; but otherwise it seems unrelated to USB chargers, USB docks/peripherals and battery.
One outstanding idea is to boot into BIOS and see if happens from there too. If it does, I will then retry without an SSD installed too.
Related threads by other users:
Power supply problem (note: I don’t have issues with fans ramping up like this user does)
Framework 13 AMD crashing on different OSs - #5 by McAllaster
I’ll keep this updated thread updated.
O.T: Of course this issue started after doing a nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
… leading me to spend a whole bunch of time thinking my Linux setup was the problem. Nope, not related at all and just bad timing haha!