Framework supporting far-right racists?

Will I provide the source of evidence you want and you refuse to seek, that is on you.

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Because you asked

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Correct. Go away and be happy.

Of course you are entitled to feel whatever you feel, and do as you please.

I disagree strongly that Framework is doing anything wrong here, but you are entitled to believe differently. I don’t care tbh.

In what continent is that political sphere? In my country both are non-issues. Haven’t heard of EU pushing anything new in that regards.

Mass deportations won’t happen because the people in power want immigrants. Merkel even famously invited many people seeking refuge.

I respect that, so I will just keep engaging topic of whether framework support a right wing nut job.

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I asked within the context, that guy is completely out of the context. I didn’t even know his name until now.

Want to convince me that DHH is doing what you claim? Provide evidence that he does what you claim.

That’s an American term. Their president is doing big things.

Sorry, I don’t know what are you trying to express here.

Sure - The Ruby community has a DHH problem | tekin.co.uk

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This is getting into policy debate which isn’t the point of this thread, I’d rather not derail.
I will say that in the United States and United Kingdom (from what I’ve heard from others there), these issues are important, they matter to people. Numerous surveys have been conducted that prove these (among other issues) are major issues for voters, for example, immigration especially.

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This thread is so miserable tbh. If you are mad that the open software platform supports open software then just get an HP laptop or something. There are a thousand places where you can go talk politics instead of here.

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Interesting political statement written out of anger

Edit: Ah cool, you just created an account. You know, instead of taking few minutes to consider, then to register, verify your email, write a political statement about why talking about politics is miserable, you could have instead spent that precious 5 minutes submitting a patch or two to a FOSS project

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Welcome to the forum, you can do the same if you don’t like it here.

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I have been here a long time. I like this community. It is a good community. This thread, on all sides, is not its finest moment.

Edit to add - I like this community because it is largely comprised of people who care and who want to help. I have received more from it than I ever can give back, and I dearly hope that it continues to operate that way.

With that said, I wish everyone here all the happiness that they ever could imagine, and more. Everyone, be well.

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No problem - and yeah, I completely agree with you. It’s a shame that many of us have to go through these experiences (threats, etc.) regularly, and then need to repeatedly recall and relive those traumatic experiences to ā€˜justify’ to each and every person who asks for ā€˜evidence’.

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So this really isn’t a reply to MarcoJ but is moreso some statistics of the 1080+ comments

I went through about 600 posts from the start and noted each unique user who joined in on this discussion and voiced their opinion. I rated each user’s stance as

  • For sponsorship
  • Against sponsorship
  • Unknown (for various reasons such as having their message hidden)
  • unsure (if it’s not clear enough to deduce)

The results are thus

Out of 164 users… (As of this edit there are 243 unique users in this discussion)

  • 38 have voiced support for sponsorship,
  • 117 have voiced that they are against sponsorship.

as a percentage that is 75.5% (75.48) or to put it another way, out of a 100 people, 75 would be against framework sponsoring HyprLand and Omarchy.

It is thus that a great number of people do not support this. I accept there might be a few mistakes in my data collection and judgement but I don’t think there’s many. You are welcome to review my data or conduct your own analysis of the thread.

And out of the remaining 80ish unique users I haven’t looked at, it’s unlikely to be overturned. It would have to be almost all of them saying they’re for sponsorship.

Now some folks will say, oh this is brigading or oh this is just activists, in an effort to discredit the majority. I’m sure most are nice people in real life, but I don’t think they are engaging in good faith today. A lot of it feels low effort and I think we should ignore them. They’re not here to understand why so many people aren’t happy and the only reason they see that a majority of people aren’t happy, is we must be ā€œactivistā€ (used derogatorily) or we must be brigading, or even that We’re not real fans of framework.

They’re not worth our time. We don’t have to prove anything to these folks. @TheEvilSkeleton @Ryuka @Senhara <3

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Beware of extrapolating beyond what is in this thread or this forum. Also, what is the count of individuals who have expressed no opinion one way or the other?

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do you really think a forum post 1k deep is a good metric for the Avg FW user?

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I think it’s the best we have. @I_FW_FW and it’s better than what’s been suggested by the very few who have been for sponsorship that we’re a minority.

The ones who have expressed an unknown opinion one way or another are indicated and explained. More often it’s because their message has been hidden. At most 9 people out of 164.

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Maybe so. But extrapolating from a sample to a population should be done carefully.

Also, I have participated in this thread but I don’t recall that I have taken a position.

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