Excellent! Just applied some Honeywell PTM 3180 and am seeing a reduction of 10 to 15 degrees C in resting temperatures after starting my framework laptop (13 inch, i5 1240P, 64 GB DDR4 3200). Definitely wished I had done this sooner, is going to hopefully resolve the overheating issues I was getting with thermal paste.
Here is a photo of my application before putting the heatsink back on:
Is definitely a welcome alternative and something to try before upgrading to an AMD mainboard, as it’s a lot cheaper.
P.S. Am aware that PTM 3180 is not the same as PTM 7950, was having some trouble sourcing the latter, but am still getting significant improvements over thermal paste such as Arctic MX-4 and even Arctic MX-6.
Hi. Could you pls tell me what is your pad’s thickness? 0.25mm or 0.20mm? Because i already ordered 0.20mm version from Amazon joyjom and im not sure if its fake or what
Thermal Grizzly’s data sheet for their pad is lacking any real information. Honeywell’s data sheets are a complete contrast, full of lots of data. It does rather suggest to me, rightly or wrongly, that TG are just reselling whatever thermal pads they can get the cheapest day to day.
I bought some PTM7950 from lttstore.com in preparation for when my FW13 arrives (7840u 2.8k batch 2). When I receive it I plan to install Windows, run a benchmark a few times to thermal cycle the laptop, and “break in” the framework stock thermal paste, then performance test it. After that, I will remove the thermal paste, apply PTM7950, thermal cycle the laptop again, and re-run the benchmarks. I want to do this in a controlled, scientific way where I document everything.
There is some excellent information in this thread already, but since I plan on “upgrading” to PTM7950 I thought I would do an apples-to-apples comparison of stock paste vs PTM7950 in a more controlled/scientific way.
I need some help because I haven’t done anything like this before. What benchmarks should I use? What settings should I remember to change? (I want to ensure all the power settings are maxed out). What common testing pitfalls are there? Any advice or information from people who have done benchmarks like this would make my life easier. Thank you!
Anyone know a source for buying genuine PTM7950 in Germany? Apart from international shipping from the LTT store? Otherwise I’ll probably buy the Thermal Grizzly pads.
You can buy Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet PTM directly from their website. The company is located in Germany. It is most likely a rebranded Honeywell PTM7950.
Edit: Sorry, I missed your last sentence in which you mentioned Thermal Grizzly. Thermalright also sells a rebranded PTM7950 called Heilos, which should be slightly cheaper. Most of the bad reviews are from poor application; just put it in the freezer before you apply, and it should be easier.
My 7840U FW had liquid metal on the CPU/heatsink stock. I actually went in there to apply some, and it was there from the factory. IME, LM slightly outperforms PTM7950, so you may not get the results you want.
Framework does not install liquid metal for any of the Framework 13s as they are designed for thermal paste only. They haven’t made any official announcement about a switch to liquid metal for the 13.
I don’t have any photos from when I first got it. I might open it up to take some. Not really excited to do so, LM gets everywhere with the slightest provocation.
Since when are they doing that on the 13? Or are you talking about a 16 with a hs chip?
In my testing the difference between lm and ptm was margin of error at least without going to great lengths to bypass stapm throttling and I only figured that out after I moved on to lm so I was not able to see if it makes a bigger difference at higher loads.
If I knew then what I know now I’d probably not have moved on to lm but my mind could not comprehend a pad being allmost as good as lm so i expected even bigger imprevements XD.
The trick is not provoking it XD
But yeah nasty stuff, is conductive, goes everywhere and eats solder (and aluminum which the laptop happens to be made of). So ptm having most of the performance with none of that mess was quite a surprise to me.
I’ve had my core ultra for a couple weeks now (loving it (Ultra 7 155H) and had some leftover thermal pads (this Honeywell stuff we’re talking about in this thread). What would be the best course of action to get some results for the rest of the community of before and after?
