Josh Cook's dual USB-C expansion card

Did you send him an email, or just mention him here on the forums? It’s very easy to miss a mention.

he’s also a teenager

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I dident know that, honestly makes everything he has done even more impressive. I had assumed he was an adult with an engineering degree and job experience.

I definitely dont think it is a scam. Plenty of other people on the forums have bought from him, and I have multiple items on order. The one time I had to reach out with a question, he responded very quickly and was quite helpful.

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@Josh_Cook Would be nice to get an update, even if it’s still “the other company is giving me the runaround”.

A lesson a lot of companies need to learn, which Framework did reasonably well, is for pre-orders/etc to provide regular updates, even if the update is “not really anything new, last update is still the same status”. Makes it feel like things are still in motion, even if there’s a delay or pause or what not, because they’re communicating and not being a black hole of information.

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I heard they suggest the same even for detectives, that even is they didn’t find any new leads, call the people involved and just say they haven’t had anything new happen but working on it. It’s not a bad idea to keep people informed

Josh is a minor and in the process of getting an education … and has no staff… I get what your saying … but … can’t really expect the same as Framework where they have dedicated staff

I would say education first, dual USB-C expansion card second (or what ever)

In general I agree, but setting a calendar reminder for once a month taking 5 minutes to post or send an email “nothing more” shouldn’t, in principle, be a hindrance. Not saying it isn’t, I don’t know his schedule, but it’d be useful as a lesson for the future.

I’m still very much hoping this goes through.

We don’t expect the same as framework at all. What I’ve been thinking about is a simple post here.honestly I kinda forgot I ordered these cards at all, and been reminded about it when other people post on this thread only. So that’s it, just a nothing new but still working on it thing.

In any case, I won’t cancel my order anyhow

sorry … I did mean to sound rude :frowning:

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You didn’t sound rude, and you weren’t rude, you made some good points. I then replied with my personal thoughts and feelings that a very simple post/update shouldn’t take that much time as an option for OP to help keep us up to date, without having to spend a whole lot of time.

My only issue is, since he is taking money for this, he should be working on it and providing updates. The customer shouldn’t have to care if he is a minor, busy on other things, had 10 other Framework projects going on, etc. Time management, and only taking on what you can handle is an important lesson in life.

Don’t take this the wrong way, but it is what it is. I will gladly buy one when they are available, but I’m not holding my breadth for it.

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The company decided to ghost me again for the past month, but I haven’t had a chance to attempt to contact them through other means. I’m currently evaluating if there is a company providing similar parts with a similar function.

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Ah, that really sucks. sigh

Too bad, but very much not your fault. I very much hope you can manage to get this through the end, even with another company.

I hope they’re not in the process of copying your idea

Honestly I don’t think I see much of a point for them, since the Framework market is, honestly, fairly small. It’s not like an RPi form factor device, or a more generic USB dongle thing. This is basically a custom micro USB hub we’re talking here. The only thing special about it is it’s using a pretty new 3.2g2 hub chip and it’s exceptionally tiny, and might actually support some pretty decent charging speeds for the laptop.

I can’t really see much other use case for something like this as a more general product outside of the Framework ecosystem. Can you?

I suspect it’s more the relatively low volume and it took “too long and too many resources”, and so now they won’t make enough and so they’re ditching him/us. I’m more inclined to thing that, sadly. Although I think it’s large enough potential market if it goes up on the FW marketplace, and FW puts it on the order customization page. But first it has to get made and perhaps a FW blog post/email and get the word out to those that don’t frequent the forums.

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The license says the card design can be used even commercially. I personally can imagine multitudes of use cases for the expansion cards, for example RPi5 case that holds up the PCIe on it to a switch and have 4-6 expansion card slots. Another if it fits into a 5.25 inch standard slot, it’s a pc PCIe device, and you could put 4-8 cards into the CD drive slot. A router device you could put, again 4-8 cards, choosing type c, type a, or ethernet connection, so the router could become a simple NAS, a router, a slim client, KVM if anyone makes an HDMI recording card and a USB output card. The market could be WAY bigger.

To yeah, they could just sell the chip,and not worry about developing a while device. But they may be in talks with someone actually developing the card who promises bigger purchase numbers than Josh and asks to not sell the chip to him. I’m not saying it is what’s happening, just that it could, tho it still sounds paranoid :sweat_smile: the best would be of FW just licensed Josh’s design and paid royalties to him after each sold. Passive income is best for studies too, not needing to think about it

After trying a few other contact methods I’ve finally got everything I need to design the Expansion Card, I’m going to try to fast-track this project, but I do not have an ETA right now.

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Do what you can, not going to expect miracles if you’re hostage to another company feeling like getting around to it.

And above all, don’t completely stress yourself out, lose sleep over it, or not have some sort of a life because of the delay.

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No pressure but i’m probably going to need to change my delivery address if the card isn’t delivered by august 20th as I’ll be leaveing for college soon after that.