To be honest, the glare isn’t that bad, I do work outside, and inside, and I haven’t had any problems with it. And the colors are definetly better with a reflective screen! Although I do see all of your points. You can easily get a matte screen protector made for the framework from a company though.
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Another vote for a matte screen!
I want a hassle-free option of a matte screen without applying a matte screen protector my self.
Glare screen is a knock out criterion.
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Hoped they would have added this as an option with the new generation offerings…
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Yes, please provide a matte screen option. I would have bought a Framework already. I’m using ThinkPads for a quite long time now and matte screen is a must for me.
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I’ve just been looking at this laptop and am very interested (longtime Thinkpad user). It has almost everything I want, but a matte display is a must. (sculpted keycaps would be good too). I had thought about buying one this fall, but maybe I’ll wait a year to see if the screen improves.
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@bmstrong @Nix @Evil_Underlord
It’s incredibly easy to DIY a matte screen protector onto a framework laptop; multiple companies even sell ones specifically cut for the Framework! (ViaScreens, Photodon) I would highly recommend ordering the laptop; it’s great, even if you may have to work out a few increasingly rare kinks (the Framework community is incredibly helpful). Then, order a sampler (Photodon only; effectively costs $1 since you get a $5 coupon), figure out which level of glare reduction you prefer, and do it yourself! Personally, I jumped at the opportunity to do another DIY upgrade to my laptop :D
(In case you missed the link at the top, check out this closely related topic)
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Thanks, @Matthew_Elmer, that’s helpful. I do note that that other discussion includes a report from someone who ruined their screen trying to put this on. An interesting option, but far from my first choice.
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Could you link to it? I would like to read more.
I like idea of DIY but there is a limit to what I can go for. One thing is to put together some legos but I am not ready to start making bricks. ;). If that is doable I think the Company should at least have an option to order DIY eddition with mate screen protector applied. Espessially taking into consideration how many people are interested in it.
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I don’t have the exact post now, but it was part of that long discussion you linked to.
For one more datapoint, I’ve installed MXT from Photodon – application was easy and result is very good.
I didn’t use shower trick and applied it in my living room; had to continuously brush away dust until I started to apply film though. Success from the first try. The film covers all active area and leaves small margins on all sides, 1-2 mm.
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PLEASE A MATTE SCREEN.
Just received my FW 12th gen.
This is a real mirror. Very tireing for the eye.
Especially I need to put the brightness up in order to see whats on display…in the monring that s a pain for my eyes.
See my review here : Intel 12th Gen Frame Work laptop Consumer Reviews
Ho and if it is 1980x1080 that s even better, no need to apply fixes to lower the resolution HIDPI and stuf (under linux). After tweaking the scale I still have some apps that have tiny little icones I cannot use.
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The reflections are so bad I never use the display. I use an external monitor with a matte screen.
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Yeah…the screen reflection…best in the business. LoL…
Off topic though, how on earth did rtings get 11.4 hours of web browsing with the 11th gen framework laptop?
Ever since the Framework laptop was conceived, people have been asking for a matte display. How many months has it been now? Of all the most popular feature requests, this one seems to sit at the top of the list. And yet, after all these many months, there’s been no announcement about it. But there has been an announcement of a Chromebook option, which as far as I can tell no one asked for.
I am beginning to wonder if Framework is just an echo of Apple. You can ask Apple for a feature, or the removal of a feature, but unless they are repeatedly shamed in the tech press, they won’t budge or admit they are wrong, and even with repeated shaming they still won’t budge most of the time. Other tech companies have this pig-headedness problem, but Apple is most notorious. Does Framework have the same mentality? Is a matte display from Framework merely a wish, to be forever unfulfilled because they think they know better than consumers?
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Uhm…
To me it seems like you’re misunderstanding a lot? So many people have gotten third party matte screen protectors and have been completely satisfied with them, Framework has also promoted and worked with these companies to put out these products…
It’s a bit unfair to compare them to apple because their R&D is so much smaller…
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On top of that I would guess that expansion is one of the company’s priorites. For now the most number of the request is “please I am from (…), and I want to buy framework laptop”. And I would gess that this would be the first priority.
And matte display is not the most critical funtionality missing. Mabye AMD processors? Touch display?
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I agree that a matte display would be a huge improvement to the product, and its fitness for the productivity use case.
I disagree that “not yet” = “never”.
Comparison with Apple is also, I think, quite inaccurate.
Instead, I think, it would be better to focus on a path to a solution than just reiterate problems. To that end, what number of “guaranteed” sales would it take to ensure the R&D costs of developing, verifying, and stocking a matte will be justified? Would Framework entertain the idea of a preorder system to accomplish this “funding” of the matte display work, @nrp ?
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