So far from the datasheets it seems like a similar connector is rated for 50 cycles. So 30 was off but the expansion bay module is still not hot-swappable. Because Framework has not released any durability information on their connector, we can only extract information based on the existing model of connector that the Framework’s expansion bay is based on. You can view the post here for more information.
Did you scroll down through that link to the last post by nrp?
you guys are really not doing your research.
Can you provide a link or screenshot to that post?
Scroll down 4 posts from the one you linked…
I wonder how much “last post” is not descriptive of where to go … 
I know that thread. That’s why I gave my statement. In the same thread you’ll find the post of nrp. If the standard quality connectors can climb from 100 to 2000 and still pass, then the custom one will pretty blast them away.
Doing 200 swaps for the expansion bay will be no problem, at least that is what I’m thinking. If you start swapping the expansion bay modules ten times a day, you surely have other problems than the connector. 
I am. Otherwise I would not have made my statement and simply kept myself from posting.
Purchase a machine without a fan then if a little dB wakes up your kid. Try a Microsoft Surface or Mac if silence is the argument hanging everything up.
You can cripple the machines cores or set limits on processing power however, it is going to turn the fans on to protect and extend the life of the device.
You could also set the fans to a fixed speed that is as loud as you can tolerate and live with the performance that gives you.
Unfortunately, the framework does not provide any program for this.
It at least kinda does, no idea if ectool works on windows though.
The noise has been terrible on mine, horrible fan whine. I came from an XPS 9710 where the fans are a smooth whoosh of air. This is way more of a high frequency whine, which gives me headaches. If framework doesn’t have a workaround other than limiting it’s performance massively, I’ll have to return mine.
First of all, it is true that there are many complaints about the Framework cooling system and that there are many complaints and requests for them to add their own application in Windows and Linux that allows you to control the fans, TDP, frequencies… but it is unknown if Framework is working on it. There is even a review where it is requested.
Add to that in most laptops as “thin” as Framework at high resolutions and without fps limits, whether in games or editing programs, they become very noisy. Framework 16 is no exception, although in this case its decibel level is even higher (only Vision Pro 16 of those I have seen surpasses it).
But all gaming laptops at high resolutions without fps limits tend to make a lot of noise, which is why it is allowed in Frameworks such as Alienware, Asus, XMG… to be able to control the TDP, fans and frequencies, and they even have standard modes so you can choose if you want more power or silence.
In the case of the framework, while waiting for the framework to decide to address user complaints, I recommend this configuration, of which I attach screenshots. With it, you can play, for example, cyberpunk at 1080P and 60 fps with much less noise and in a fluid manner:
Another option is to buy a cooling pad (for me it is essential for a gaming or editing laptop. My Asus was kept very well thanks to it, even though it had a reputation for the motherboard always failing). For example, a Klim Mistral at 4500 rpm (it is important that it does not go below 4000 rpm, otherwise it will be of no use to you):
https://www.amazon.es/KLIM-refrigeración-Ventilador-Rendimiento-Compatible/dp/B08P8LCCPM
I hope I was able to help, as well as I hope that framework allows us a little more control over this issue
Yes, I was using the lower power profiles but what I found was a better trick for me is to use a lower power charge such as 90W or 100W to trick the firmware into running in a lower power state. This still allows for CPU ramp up when needed but not pushing the dGPU to it’s limits. If you are pushing your computer at 100% util you will notice battery drain but that has not been an issue for me yet at least. For now I get to enjoy dead silence… finally. Then when I can control the fans I can go back to the 180W charger.
and for work, I also throw in power saving windows 11 mode which thottles back the CPU. But when gaming I just leave it in balanced mode.
I have real doubts that the framework is going to add a program in Windows / Linux that allows controlling the fans or the TDP. It has been requested many times and it has been more than 6 months since the official request.
I just don’t think they’re interested in the user having that level of control.
Anyone who wants that level of control will have to go to brands like asus, xmg, alienware, msi…
Although I hope I’m wrong because it is an important point. Although the silence of the framework team for so long makes me think about it.
I mean, we don’t even need a GUI, just a command line application will work. But I imagine they will need to revise their firmware to make it happen. I think it’s more likely they revise or create a hardware mod that resolves the whistle. Then I don’t care how much the fans spin.
Either situation, can be considerable amount of work so likely not a year until something happens I guess. I at least have my mods for now.
fw-fanctrl has been out there for quite some time now and is working for both Linux and Windows operating systems. It’s not distributed by framework and the needed driver hasn’t been signed yet, but otherwise it just works.
There’s even a gui.
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It’s only available on Linux for now sadly. But it looks like the developers are still working on getting it on Windows at least.
What is needed is a system-level application, accessible to the average user, that can be installed on Windows / Linux using an executable, that allows controlling fans, frequencies, tdp or setting the speed of the fans when reaching each point of temperature.
Most brands have this and it is a job that the framework should do.
As Ive shown many times - this is easily installed and done in linux.
I have yet to hear a linux user complain about needing to use the terminal to achieve this.
There is even a gui in linux for this:
I understand you are concerned with needing to use a terminal to type a single line of commands - but to say “there is no way to control the fans” is a blatant lie.
What you should say is “there is not a way to control the fans that I am willing to use”.
If you want to design a gui for fw-fanctl, you are more than welcome to do so. This is about freedom after all.
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