Like many, I’m in the market for a laptop. I’d prefer to buy one before the world economy falls apart.
Some notes on laptop vendors and their products:
Lenovo: was caught putting keylogging spy chips in Thinkpads sent to the US military, resulting in theft of numerous passwords; Lenovo is connected to China’s military.
Asus: Taiwanese company that is a sister company to Chinese firm Pegatron, the iPhone maker; in my experience their laptops have terrible coil whine. YMMV.
Acer: Taiwanese, but most refurbished laptops that I see for sale on Newegg or walmart.com seem to be Acers. Quality problems must be serious. Acer Swift with 12th gen Intel has terrible overheating issues. Often terrible trackpads, try before you buy.
MSI: Taiwanese, some of their laptops are known for their coil whine. Refer to notebookcheck.net.
LG: some Gram laptops now have matte displays, but the bigger Grams feel flimsy. The Grams are not adequately adapted to 12th gen Intel chips which cause serious overheating.
HP: (made by Foxconn) ever since they went berzerk with outsourcing jobs overseas under CEO Carly Fiorina, their quality plummeted from 8/10 to maybe 3/10.
Dell: (made by Foxconn) terrible customer service if anything goes wrong (they love to deny any such defect exists) but importantly their laptops are known for having defective touchpads. See costco.com reviews.
Apple: I’ve personally seen numerous quality problems with x86 Macbooks. Running Linux on an M1/M2 Mac every day is not 100% possible yet except on the M1 Mac Mini (which has coil whine and Apple calls that “normal”).
Intel: Intel briefly made (still do?) CNC-milled NUC laptops that look just like Macbook pro’s, but insisted on not selling direct, & instead through small unknown companies. Wasted opportunity.
Companies that use forced labor in/from Xinjiang concentration camps include Acer, Asus, Lenovo, Apple, etc. China’s government has relocated Xinjiang prisoners around the country to factories making tech items. See here: China: 83 major brands implicated in report on forced labour of ethnic minorities from Xinjiang assigned to factories across provinces; Includes company responses - Business & Human Rights Resource Centre
@nrp It is far more important that a company doesn’t use forced labor than that they are “carbon neutral” (which seems phony anyway). Can you guarantee that Framework and its suppliers don’t use forced or slave labor?