OcuLink Expansion Bay Module

I appreciate the work daily, that’s absolutely annoying and basically a waste. Hope for the boys here on the 8i board don’t suffer the same fate

@Kyle_Tuck
If you are willing, I think it would help the community if you did a write up of your experiences, and maybe help others avoid problems you came across.

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I have thought about doing that. The sad part is, it would basically just be letting more people know about the Amazon listing, and I don’t want to contribute to any sales they get.

Someday maybe…

@Xavier_Jiang I do not blame you at all for buying through them, but I would appreciate it if you could remove your link to the listing. It won’t stop people from finding it, but it would at least remove this pathway.

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That’s understandable. I did publish the 1.3 revision of this board, and I am thinking of publishing the latest 1.4 in a few months time, but I definitely won’t be releasing the version with a redriver as I don’t want someone else to do something like that to my design.
It is published under MIT so they can do anything, but even if it was a more restrictive license, I doubt that the Chinese company that might do it would care about it.

The only “bonus” of my design is that it requires some framework specific parts, so these companies might have trouble sourcing that to do this.

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@Kyle_Tuck That is dirty that they took your design to make profit off of it after you did all the work. I’m sorry that happend to you, and for what it’s worth everyone here knows it came from you first. Your design is niche to the FW community (and thus here was its origin) due to size constraints we were all experiencing. All other sites/sources are thieves and I’ll report em :sweat_smile:

For the writeup, i was thinking more about maybe naming the company that did this to you, and maybe describe your relationship with them. I.e. did you have NDA, contract etc.
What would you do differently next time?
Regarding your product being sold illegally elsewhere, you can tell those web sites to remove it.
Copyright violation is a good enough reason for them to remove it.

I’m sorry, but how can I buy the same board for myself? I see that applications were collected earlier but I missed it. Will there be a Batch 2?

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Hi just wanting to report back with the Oculink adapter in my Hand. it seems to be mostly working, running games just fine (using Linux even). However It seems to be limited at PCIe 3.0 x8, probably a limitation of the cable. I am currently using the standard 50cm cable that came with the PCIe Slot adapter. Are there any other cables that support PCIe 4.0 x8, and are shorter than 50cm ? I have already looked a bit on Alieexpress and havent found anything.

Besides that does anybody know to force the PCIe link speed to stay at 3.0. My GPU (RX 6800) wont start without the Battery Saving setting (forceing the link speed to 3.0 when on Battery), which means that i currently cant use this Adapter while charging.

@akiyamka, disregard my last post. I thought I was on a different thread lol.

Sorry for taking so long to reply - our household was hit with a bad cold last week, and I’m still catching up after having to take several days off work to take care of family and then myself.

I need to get a little bit more ironed out on the internal pieces - namely how they assemble together - and the screwholes for PCI devices to be anchored with. I should have time to do some of that tomorrow morning, as soon as I have an “alpha” ready I’ll publish it on Printables and link it back here.

Note that I need to do some maintenance on my printer before I can do any test prints - was trying to use up some old filament, and it’s created some nasty clogs in the extruder. I can publish the parts as designed with a big disclaimer that they’ve not been tested yet though, and your mileage may vary. :slight_smile:

looks like you can buy one from framework soon

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@Filip You have been mentioned by Nirav in the LTT Video to the Launch Event. Not by Name, but your Project and the Possibillity of bifurcation :slight_smile:

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I just bought a couple of Filip’s boards, now they announce an official oculink adapater.

I gotta say, I am pretty disgusted by this. All the work, all the expense, everything. An offhand mention in a product launch hardly cuts it. That amounts to “Hey, thanks for doing all our R&D for us, we’ll take it from here.” If they don’t at least have the integrity to offer @Filip a job, or at least compensation for time and effort and recognition (I’d buy the oculink Filip Edition, if he gave it an official endorsement!), when they’re using it more or less verbatim, then it’s not the company I thought it was. I almost wanna say boycott, but it’s not my effort they’re taking advantage of.

I’ll still buy the Filip ReDriver edition when it’s ready :smiley:

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This is so disgusting. This thread goes back just shy of 3 years. 3 years we have been begging and asking and working and had 3 different attempts at an oculink board. And finally after @Filip gets one working and is able to start producing I wake up to see @Framework is launching their own oculink module. After seeing us get ripped of by the first attempt, nothing from them. After seeing a second attempt fail, nothing from them. After a successful third attempt, oh here you go instead. Like I said in the past they need to be more transparent. Maybe they need to create a place where the community can come up with ideas for boards and the community can vote on which idea makes it to the top and that idea gets put into production. Even if it took them 2 years to make (which I doubt) then they should have let us know because we were losing money trying to do it, but if it took them 2 months to make then it shows an experienced team can help make the communities dreams come true in no time. We could have had this 3 years ago. I just read in an article “Rounding out the announcements is a 10Gb Ethernet expansion card for users who want a faster wired internet experience than the current 2.5Gb model. But this isn’t a Framework product per-se, but was designed and developed by hardware makers Wisdpi. Patel said the community is so passionate that they’re constantly looking at new chip and hardware announcements. They then head to the company’s forums to ask “Hey, like, can we get a Framework version of this?” he explained. The advent of a slender 10Gb Ethernet chip was enough to inspire one third-party developer to build an Expansion Card module to harness it. “Basically, we got in contact with them,” said Patel and offered some guidance to help build the module. And once it was finished, Framework is now acting as a reseller to enable the whole community to easily buy it. Patel admitted that a 10Gb Ethernet Card would inevitably cater to a fairly niche customer, but “love to see a third party come in and fill that gap.”” did @Filip get the same support? Are they acting as his reseller?

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My goodness, so this means we now live in a world where first a guy says he will build it, and then takes peoples money and without any word or warning, simply disappears; where then the community arrives at a makeshift solution via bent cables; then we had you to finally save the community with a great first solution; and now your design actually gets stolen…

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What article are you referring to? I saw their announcement for the new 13 pro but nothing about an oculink adapter?

The LTT video specifically brings it up.

The Live Event this morning (check the FW YouTube channel) covered the Oculink adapter. Dev kit page is here: https://frame.work/products/framework-oculink-dev-kit

That is wild. Especially since I seem to recall them saying they weren’t pursuing it. Now both Kyle and Filip have been swiped :pensive_face:

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