[RESOLVED] Framework 13 AMD headphone jack buzz when not playing audio

All, this is with the absolutely latest updates applied including the BIOS update, correct?

Correct. I’m on BIOS 3.03.

I should also note I’m on a fresh install of Fedora 39 Beta 1.1 on the AMD hardware.

Can you reproduce with powersaving for the audio card disabled. I know it was an issue with the audio card on the 11th board so maybe the 13th board as the same “problem/limitation” with the card it was on.

Same. Latest kernel and updates from F39 updates.

Whoa, @Danny_Colin the solution in this post on the original 11th gen audio issues worked! I was a bit surprised as it appeared to be Intel specific but maybe the audio breakout board is Intel based in some way?

echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save

I’ll apply the snd_hda_intel.power_save=0 kernel boot parameter to resolve on this OS installation.

Odd that it resurfaced though. I think I remember having this issue back when I originally got the 11th gen laptop but I definitely haven’t experienced it for quite a while until I installed the new AMD board. @Matt_Hartley is this something you’re already aware of and might we be able to get the fix available generally for the new board?

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Well, if both boards are using the same or similar audio chipset, they’d have the same issue. AFAIK, this is an hardware limitation on the 11th gen so it can’t be fixed. I guess we’ll need to wait for Matt confirmation to know if that’s also the case on the AMD board.

Been slammed, sorry for the delay. Few things.

  • It’s a Realtek and it does support power save after looking into the modinfo for this card. In theory, your command would possibly stop power save.

  • I tested this on Ubuntu 22.04.3 with OEM C kernel (6.1.0.1025) and audio played fine and had no buzzing. Tested with and without FW provided AC power brick attached.

  • Does the laptop do this when detached from power and also have you tried this in another area to see if it is interference elsewhere? I want to eliminate EMI from the equation.

  • Have you tested another set of headphones or other 3.5 mm device?

  • Lastly, if all above fails - try re-seating your board - could be mounted in such a way as to create the issue. Reconnect your audio cable after disconnecting it.

cable

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I’m on AMD with F39, latest updates-testing

The echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save trick worked for me. I notice popping sounds when audio is about to begin and shortly after it ends. It does this on and off power. I’ve heard this with more than just a single set of headphones, I do notice it more on headsets.

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Interesting! I’ll make a mental note that some users may need to zero in on power save on these Realtek audio configs.

I’m working a theory. I added the dell-headset-multi work-around until a kernel patch lands. I’m wondering if my symptoms are specific to that. I’ll try to remember to check that after work.

The fix worked for me as well, and I had the same problem. Buzzing when audio is not playing. I’m on a framework 13 AMD.

Sounds like this has worked for multiple people, including @keawade - marking this solved.

Will add this into the doc. Can I get a list of distros and their release versions from everyone before I do?

Confirmed for Fedora 39, anyone for Ubuntu LTS?

Yes, Ubuntu LTS here

I finally got around to testing. Using a fresh copy of F39 updated to the lastest available today, using my headset without the dell-multi-headset work-around, I still get popping sounds when starting audio and a while after the audio has stopped. I stand by the fix I mentioned above for my specific problem.

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Same issue here, Framework 13 AMD, Fedora 39, kernel 6.7.6

I applied the workaround while the buzzing was going on and it immediately stopped.

While the issue is marked as resolved, isn’t this workaround ultimately affecting battery life?

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Yes but the impact is probably so small that it doesn’t really change the overall battery life.

Hi, Kinda late but I had the same problem on Arch Linux (EndeavourOS)
The fix is the same. When I switched state to 1 the buzzing immediately started.

I’m on Arch Linux. The solution works, but only temporarily - when I restart OR if i plug out or plug in the charger after running that command - the setting resets and I get the buzzing. Anyone know a permanent solution to the problem? I even agree to a hacky solution like a service that runs this command each time on restart and on change of power source.

The awful idea I had was just write a while loop to check the file to see if it ever changes from 0, then run the command to set it to 0 again. Maybe put a sleep in there so you aren’t just doing that all the time. Create a systemd unit file to run that script and enable it. Not trying to promote my silly wiki doc, but something like the following: Power Management - taim/my-setup - Codeberg.org. I’m not seeing that problem, so I can’t test it.