Reviews are dropping

Good point, removable labels then maybe I guess. Though my wish wasn’t for more port but that they add the second dp channel to the existing usb4 ones to be compatible with stuff that doesn’t use mst for mostly apple reasons.

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Even 4 fully featured ports would be amazing. Many laptops in the FW16 size range don’t have that. There have been several laptops I was close to buying in the last couple of years that were really close (though without the maintainability of FW) where the deal breaker was “wait, you give me one USB4 port and then an ancient HDMI 1.4 port and a couple of USB-A v2 ports?” I would be happy to never see another USB-A port on a computer again. In the rare case I need to attach some legacy USB-A device or dongle, that’s what adapters are for.

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I would look into your current machine, it seems to be double posting

Another two:

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Finally, someone mentioned in the review that they were using a pre-production unit. Thank you PCWorld.

Also sounds like they had the same keyboard flex that LTT encountered. Hm.

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The keyboard has reasonable key travel and a firm bottoming action, but key actuation lacks tactile feel and keyboard flex is significant in the middle of the keyboard. Don’t get me wrong: when I say it’s ok, I mean it’s ok. I typed several thousands words with no issue. Still, it might help if Framework could find a way to reinforce the center of the keyboard. I’d also love to see an optional keyboard with mechanical switches.

From PCWorld Review

I am guessing they ran into the same issue LTT’s Alex mentioned and did a hack-y fix for. It will be interesting to see if it’s a prevalent issue for Batch 1 customers.

Also from the same review:

The Framework 16 has upwards-firing speakers, which is a plus

I thought FW16 had sideways firing speakers?

It does have side firing speakers. The PC world reviewer is mistaken.

Directional confusion aside, it’s really encouraging to see some positive accolades about the sound quality from these reviews.

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People keep commenting on the trackpad being too small. I just wanted to mention here that I’m actually a fan of this. I’m sick of large trackpads with terrible palm rejection. I spend a lot of time typing on my laptop and the last thing I want is the trackpad to start randomly changing the text.

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Hardware Canucks review:

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Jarrod’s Tech review:

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I am batch 12 as well, and trying to guage the approximate ship date.
But I am glad and hope issues will be worked out mostly by then.

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It’s rather too soon to tell really, I think by Batch 4 or 5 we’ll get a sense of how fast they’re getting through batches to send out. They haven’t even restarted production from the Lunar New Year break, that’ll be on the 15th I believe.

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Batch 2 users are sharing in the Batch 2 guild thread that they’ve gotten the email that their orders are preparing for shipment…so that’s promising news that they’ll move at a decent clip.

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Another French :croissant: review here:

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Another nice review from Level1Techs. Also talks about Linux in it and actually runs it!

Edit: Dedicated thread and another video: FW16 video reviews from Elevated Systems and Level1Tech!

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Framework Laptop 16 won a Computex 2024 Best Choice Awards: Sustainable Tech Special Award

:tada:

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Sean Holister at The Verge published an update reviewing 1 month use of a newer batch.

He reports several issues fixed or worked around, but he also noticed heat and noise, and failing to suspend while the 7700S discrete GPU was in use. (He reported an incident where his wife noticed the noise and initially thought he was vacuuming the living room — I wonder if in that instance it was on his lap and the bottom vents were partially blocked.)

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RTINGS.com reviewed the Framework Laptop 16 in June.
Framework Laptop 16 (2023) Review - RTINGS.com

(via Framework Laptop 16 User Reviews - #438 by TheStachelfisch)

(I didn’t understand this statement in the RAM section.

Each SO-DIMM of DDR5 RAM has two channels; therefore, if you plan on upgrading to more RAM down the road, you can select an option with only one DIMM and add another one later without having to worry about sacrificing performance like with the older DDR4 standard.

A DDR4 SO-DIMM has 1 channel with 64 data lines. A DDR5 SO-DIMM has two channels, each with 32 data lines.

Confusingly, AMD’s Ryzen 7840HS specifications say the processor has two memory channels. I hope they mean it supports two SO-DIMMS.

[The RTINGS statement might be true if two SO-DIMMs shared only two 32 bit data channels to the processor. But that is only 64 data lines total, and since DDR5 is only 50% higher frequency, that would mean that the DDR5 with two SO-DIMMS would be lower bandwidth than DDR4 with two SO-DIMMS, and that seems unlikely.]

So it doesn’t seem like a single DDR5 SO-DIMM can provide the bandwidth of two DDR5 SO-DIMMS, and therefore it will have less performance.)

The terminology is commonly used horribly.

On DDR1, DDR2, DDR3, and DDR4 one channel was 64-bits.

DDR5 cuts the size of each channel in half to 32-bits but doubles the number of channels to 2 channels per module (and 4 channels total on consumer grade CPUs). However most people (including often AMD) still use the term “channel” to refer to 64 bits.

The CPU and the laptop both support two 64-bit modules on a total 128-bit bus. That is what both RTINGS and AMD are trying to say.

I have no clue how things are gonna change with DDR6 moving to 48-bit channels (and expected to stick with 4 channels on consumer grade CPUs, bringing it to a total of 192-bits).