Should I get the Ryzen AI 300 or 7040 series? (Framework 13)

Hello, I’m wondering, if I should get the Framework 13 with the Ryzen AI 5 340 or the 7640U.

The only last question I have, is which chip has better battery life, and by how much?

Has anyone compared these two cpus? I couldn’t find a proper comparison online.

I would like to know the battery life comparisons and maybe also if the ryzen ai series generation maybe has some extra features compared to the older gen framework laptops.

If you don’t want to use local AI, get the 7640U. It’s cheaper and has a better GPU. The battery life is not consistent, some say higher others say lower

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Thanks for your answer

Well you might be already tired reading that, but battery life always depends on your use case.
The more demanding your applications are, the lower the duration until your battery is drained.

So it all comes down to one question: What is the main purpose of your laptop going to be?

  • Is it gaming? Then the 7640U has the better potential.

  • Is it AI stuff? Then the AI 340 has the better potential.

  • Is is just browsing of office stuff? Now it’s getting interesting,
    because benchmarks usually show the max. potential rather than underwhelming use cases.

    Recently, intel as well as AMD introduced so called efficiency cores to lower the idle power consumption which includes underwhelming use cases like that, so you’d be better off with the newer CPU generation for those use cases, in your case that’s the AI 340.

Btw, as I am not interested in AI at all and want to do gaming occasionally, I chose the 7640U.

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Yeah I know that the AI 340 has a pretty nice NPU, but I dont think im gonna use that, and its also weird that the 7640U just has a better gpu than the AI 340. I usually do lighter workloads but might do some occasional gaming.

Im probably gonna get the 7460U cuz of the price.

One other thing to note is that TDP profiles arent listed on the specs sheet for it, only for the newer laptops.

I’m wondering if there are any differences/improvements between the two laptops (for example a new fingerprint reader).

The e-cores in the ai 300 series aren’t particularly more power efficient than the regular ones, the are primarily more space efficient to make room for the npu. Don’t expect massive power savings from those. The power efficiency optimized cores are rumored to come with zen6 which trade max-clock and space from apparently pretty massive power efficiency gains.

The performance/w for normal workloads hasn’t changed all that much between zen4 and zen5.

There may be some tweaks in how the igpu works that may make a pretty big difference in normal use as the one in the 7x40u is not that good at turning stuff off when not in use.

I’ve got the AI9 version, don’t see much performance uplift in most tasks. It does however futureproof your machine. But with it being a framework, I would get the 7640U and save the money to upgrade in future.

Yeah, thats why I’m buying a framework because I want to invest in something that lasts me more than 5 years.