What audio driver are you using? Just curious.
I am having zero problems with modern standby now. It works great.
The Microsoft driver. I uninstalled the Realtek driver and app after installing the Framework drivers.
Ok same here. I wonder if it is some software interfering with sleep… maybe has some kind of lock?
Note that we’ve only done substantial testing on the driver configuration that the Framework Laptop Driver Bundle installs. If you’re seeing issues after removing drivers from there, a good first step would be checking if the issue also occurs with the full driver bundle installed.
I’m currently on all-stock drivers. I have it configured to sleep on pressing the power button or closing the lid. Right now the laptop is unable to enter standby mode via either method. start > power > sleep doesn’t work either. In all three methods, the screen will turn off but the keyboard backlight and power button LED remain on. The fan ramps up a few minutes later.
Rebooting fixes it; not sure what’s causing this, and it happens sporadically.
I think some of the sleep issues can be due to windows running background updates which prevent the system from going all the way into standby when on AC.
This does not explain why you cannot wake from sleep however.
Are you running into the issue primarily on AC or also on battery?
Just for some background modern standby sleep has 2 different phases, 1 where the system is still fully on but the screen is off, and 2 where the system is in a low power sleep state:
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I want to say that both times the phase began it would have been on AC, and attempting to wake on battery, but I’m not absolutely certain.
This seems poorly thought-out from a UX standpoint. I don’t believe anyone considers phase 1 “sleep” as the only battery savings is coming from the screen being off. Is there no way to ‘force’ it to go into phase 2?
Happened again just now. Same sequence of [plugged in, lid closed to sleep, unplugged, lid opened, failed to wake].
No. The laptop was using excessive power with the Realtek driver installed.
Got it. We’re digging into what is happening on the driver for standby power, but in the meantime we recommend running with the default driver bundle as we haven’t tested the configuration with the driver uninstalled.
This is anecdotal at best but I am doing what you do all the time, and have never had an issue with Windows resuming. I should mention that I am using WPD and Tinywall. Both of these let you control updates and what elements of Windows may speak with the internet.
Modern standby has worked amazingly well after returning to the MS generic Realtek audio driver. I am noticing some slight audio issues with headphones though under the generic driver, so I look forward to the issue with the stock driver being discovered.
But outside of that the laptop is running 100% perfect.
For the time being I’ve reinstalled the Framework drivers (including the Realtek audio driver) and will attempt to reproduce the issue.
A shame right now that you either pick an audio driver that drains battery quickly or breaks modern standby. Nothing that’s unfixable by the team though!
To be clear, the issue with the stock driver is modern standby. Not being able to wake from standby is happening for obfuscuirty with the MS driver, not the framework one. (At least as far as he has reported.)
But I am using the MS driver and modern standby is working exactly as it is supposed to. (as far as I can tell) I do not have any issues with resuming either.
So the tradeoff you’re speaking of doesn’t seem to track at least as far as my experience is concerned.
Ah, my bad. I’m just glad there’s a laptop manufacturer that can actually fix a sleep wake issue when everyone’s gotten used to something like this as “a laptop just getting old.”
I guess I am just old school, I like to shut things down when dome for the day.
Then, there should be no battery drain.
Not happy with certain Lenovo laptops I have because they seem to drain battery even shut off.
Yes I have turned off USB power out on those computers.
Adding to this thread, can create a new thread if so desired.
I received my DIY laptop on 8/4, and proceeded to set it up with Pop!_OS with encryption, then dual-booting windows on an expansion card, with rEFInd set up for the boot menu. Everything has been working very well and I love the machine. Yesterday I grabbed the laptop, closed the screen, unplugged, and ran out to do some errands. Normally I have chosen to suspend from the menu, and it has worked well. When I went to resume the machine the power light on the button was solid. Pressing it yielded a black screen and the fans running at high speed. I tried holding the power button down until the machine shut off, then restarting, but that did not resolve the issue. When I did try to power the machine on there was a series of blinking green lights in between the expansion slots on the left hand side of the machine, with an orange one periodically as well. Unfortunately I didn’t think to capture a video of them. I finally shut the machine down, opened it up, and swapped the RAM chips to the opposite slots that they had been in. At that point, on boot the machine scanned the memory, then booted as normal. Everything has been fine since then. I can attempt to reproduce if that will be useful, but prior to doing so I’d like to determine if there is any way to break the cycle short of opening up the machine and swapping the ram slots. That’s simple enough to do, but if there is a key combo to reset the state, that would be easier.
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If it happens again, here’s what the diagnostic lights mean: My Framework Laptop (Intel 11th Gen Intel® Core™) is not powering on
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