Product: Batch 5 of Framework Laptop 16 DIY Edition (AMD Ryzen AI 300 Series)
BIOS: 03.04 11/16/2025, Secure boot disabled
CPU: AMD Ryzen AI 300 Series - Ryzen AI 7 350
Module für Erweiterungsschächte: Expansion Bay Shell
Arbeitsspeicher: DDR5-5600 - 64GB (2 x 32GB)
Festplatte: WD_BLACK™ SN850X NVMe - M.2 2280 - 1TB
Festplatte: WD_BLACK™ SN770M NVMe - M.2 2230 - 500GB
Netzadapter: Power Adapter - 240W - EU/KR
Tastatur: German (2nd Gen)
Macropad: RGB Macropad Module (2nd Gen)
USB-C, USB-A, HDMI (3rd Gen), DisplayPort (2nd Gen), Ethernet, Audio
Linux: 6.12.57+deb13-amd64, Debian 13.2
The Xfce-Desktop (newest CachyOS and also with newest Debian) freezes sporadically. Only the mouse is movable, but no more action is possible on the Desktop.
I can switch to e.g. TTY1 with CTRL+ALT+F1, log in on the CLI and see all processes, even the line “/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch”. If i kill the Desktop with “kill {$PID}”, the Desktop login dialog shows up and i can log in again. But it freezes after some seconds or minutes. The notebook is not usable. How can i track the issue?
Out of curiosity, is Gnome also installed on your system?
I had similar issues with my debian framework (using Cinnamon/Xorg). The session would load up fine and after a couple of minutes only the mouse cursor would move, but clicks and keypresses would not register. Same happened with XFCE. I was unable to launch Cinnamon/Wayland, or XFCE/Wayland from gdm3.
However, when using Gnome (Wayland) there were no freezes.
Perhaps it is something related to Xorg and the latest debian version (in my case 6.17.13+deb14-amd64). Unlike you, I have an Nvidia RTX expansion bay, and the freeze problems disappeared once I installed the non-free 590 graphics drivers from the Nvidia repository.
No, a fresh installation of CachyOS + Xfce and later a complete fresh Debian + Xfce. But in Debian i found some installed Gnome packages (gnome-keyring, pinentry-gnome3 …) and error messages in the system protokoll - removed them from the system, but no positive effect. Same effect as yours.
I am using Linux on servers since 1998 (SuSE, Debian … - without GUI), so a tried a lightweight Desktop (Xfce) first. Now i try KDE (X11) - After a few freezes, it works for hours (till now).
I’m having this same issue with KDE Plasma and Budgie as well. I’m on Ubuntu 24.04
I had the exact same issue on FW13 ai 350 from new. After a couple of days running on older kernels that didn’t have that problem I found a solution on another thread in here that I don’t have bookmarked but what solved it for me was adding a parameter to grub config. Specifically amdgpu.dcdebugmask=0x10 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT.
Search for it and I am fairly confident you will find a solution.
Oh, thanks very much, i will try that next week and report here.
But first, i give Windows 11 Pro a chance on an empty partition - looks very good, smoother and more stable (till now), text is bigger and more readable by default, drivers installed easily, Windows activated and updated …