1.5 Years with Framework 13 (AMD): A Software Developer’s Reality Check

After about 1.5 years of using my Framework 13 (AMD Ryzen 7040 Series), I wanted to share some thoughts from a my user perspective: a software developer. I bought it for the modularity and long-term upgrade promise, and I’ve been using it alongside my desktop setup for both work and personal tasks. This is not an in-depth technical review, but rather a practical look at how the device holds up over time; what works well, what doesn’t, and some reflections now that the new PRO version is on the horizon.

(This post has been partially machine translated: apologies for any odd phrasing.)

TL;DR

  • The Framework 13 (AMD Ryzen 7040) is a solid, reliable laptop that “just works” once assembled.

  • Modularity is great in theory, but in daily use I rarely swap modules.

  • Some build quirks (input cover gap, speaker crackling) reduce the premium feel.

  • Biggest issue: battery drain while powered off, often completely dead after a couple of days and boot sequence from drained battery doesn’t work as expected.

  • BIOS updates and security patch timing feel slower than expected.

  • I like the idea and upgrade path, but for the price (~1557€ barebone), it leaves a slightly bitter taste.


Detailed experience

1. First impressions & daily use

The initial excitement wears off quite quickly, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Once assembled, the laptop just works. I didn’t need to tweak or fight with it, and I ended up using it like any normal device.

That’s good… but also a bit underwhelming. The “modular laptop experience” fades into the background fast.


2. Input cover gap / build feel

After a few days, I noticed a small gap and slight shift in the input cover, especially near the opening angle.

Every now and then, I need to reseat it. The visible lip doesn’t feel very premium.

I understand this is part of the repairability tradeoff, but at this price point I didn’t expect it.
Maybe it’s just my OCD, but a better chamfer or design to hide the mechanism would have helped a lot. In my case, it looks like some leftover flash or a burr from the injection molding process that wasn’t properly trimmed. The tiny gap sometime trap my arm hairs. Not a great experience when it appends.


3. Expansion cards: expectation vs reality

Marketing videos make it look like swapping seamless party trick you’d do mid-meeting like changing ports during meetings. The reality is much clunkier so I almost never do it.

Swapping cards isn’t actually that smooth: it’s the exact same struggle Jeff Geerling showed in his recent video about the ARM mainboard.

It’s way less stressful to just leave the USB-C modules in and grab one of the many dongles usually lying around the conference room.


4. Audio issues (speaker crackling)

At first, I didn’t notice any problems because I was using Bluetooth headphones.

Later, during meetings at home, I started hearing speaker crackling.

Interestingly:

  • With the input cover removed → no issue

  • With it installed → crackling appears

  • Putting some pressure on stabilized keys → noises vanishes

So I don’t think it’s the speakers themselves, but more a mechanical or resonance issue.

Framework eventually released a revised keyboard with plastic stabilizers, which basically confirms the issue was real. Honestly, I’m disappointed nobody mentioned this sooner, especially since it’s clearly been a problem for years. I wouldn’t have bought the laptop if I’d known. I’m not expecting MacBook level audio, but when a €200 Chromebook from years ago has the same problems, you know there’s a value gap.


5. Battery drain when powered off (main issue)

This is my biggest problem. Leaving the laptop at ~80% for 2-3 days the battery is completely drained.

I discovered this the hard way, on Friday it was unplugged at 80%. Monday arrived and the standup meeting at 9: completely dead. No use during the weekend. I was out for a holiday trip.

As the issue continued to show with the same pattern I started to notice:

  • At very low battery, the system struggles to boot (it partially initialize, memory controller probably retrain a lot of times, pick a very conservative speed)

  • BIOS and kernel takes a long time, we are talking minutes compared to seconds.

  • Linux kernel throws a lot of errors.

  • System feels sluggish

Below ~5%, a reboot is often required once reached to stabilize things. I cant even properly login into the DE as the system is very slow and some keystrokes are lost.

This behavior is honestly frustrating and not what I expect from a modern laptop. The drain in fact reminds me the Chromebook I cited earlier.


6. BIOS updates & security

BIOS updates feel slow compared to other brands.

For example, the LogoFAIL vulnerability (a known BIOS-related CVE) took quite a while to be addressed.

When security issues are public, I expect faster turnaround, especially for a company that targets enthusiasts and developers.


Final thoughts

I really like the idea behind Framework:

  • Modularity

  • Repairability

  • Upgrade path

That’s why I bought it.

But after paying ~1557€ for a barebone system (no RAM, SSD, OS), some rough edges are still noticeable, especially since this wasn’t an early revision. I was not expecting a pristine experiece like a Macbook but a comparable experience i previously had with Thinkpads and Latitudes. It leaves a slightly bitter taste.

A coworker and friend got a Lenovo instead (with very similar hardware) and his experience has been less frustrating.


Looking at the upcoming PRO and my future upgrade path.

Now I’m facing a dilemma. Should I upgrade to the new chassis (PRO)?

  • It probably will fix:

    • input cover flex?
    • speaker issues?
  • How about battery drain? Will a bigger battery actually solve the drain problem, or is it mainboard hardware related?

Right now, I’m not sure if upgrading the input cover will fully address these issues or just improve them slightly.

If anyone has similar experiences (especially with battery drain) or already has a chance to tried out the PRO, I’d love to hear your feedback.

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Battery drain is from expansion cards, try all USB-C and it should vanish.

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Yes, I wasn’t aware when I ordered. Full details are here Expansion Card Functionality on Framework Laptop 13 (AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series)

Expansion cards should be powered off when the computer is off, they only drain the battery when the computer is on or suspended

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I have an Intel 11th Gen currently and this is not the case for me. Use of a USB-A and / or HDMI module cause accelerated battery drain in standby … switching to all USB-C modules improves (but does not entirely eliminate) this situation.

I’m not with my device currently, so not sure what revision my modules are, but I’m pretty sure there have been comments on here about the fact that the revisions were to improve standby consumption.

I know about the issue. On the documentation there is a good schema about the issue.

On Slot 1 and 3 I have USB-C modules. On slot 2 I have I have an USB-A and on slot 4 I have a HDMI/DP module.

I think the same too. I was thinking it is the EC that is draining the battery but it is so fast.

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I don’t have a Framework AMD unit, just an Intel one, but I can empathise with a lot of this.

I do have an AMD 8040u powered laptop from a different manufacturer and I’ve seen a larger degree of flakiness here (running linux, no idea on Windows experience) so it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the issues could be related to AMD (for context, my desktop computers are all AMD and generally, I prefer AMD to Intel). I also know it doesn’t make your issues any less annoying, but there are other manufacturers that are a lot worse. GPD seem unable or unwilling to even discuss BIOS updates for a lot of their devices, Minisforum are as bad (reading from forum posts) and don’t get my started on folks like Crucial / Micron who acknowledge issues in their firmware but effectively tell you to pound sand when you ask for an ETA on a fix.

I agree with your comments about the idea behind the company, and it’s why I’ve bought a Framework laptop in the past, and why I’ve placed an order for the new Pro. I’ll see how the price pans out once more comparable devices hit UK retailers, but I’m sure it will be more expensive… however, I’m personally prepared to swallow that based on the fact I’m supporting the company in delivering it’s goal, rather than paying an Org that has to be forced into doing something good for the general consumer.

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Funny to mention the sleep issue. My dell work notebook and the macbook both have the exact same problem, often dead when wanting to start it up. I’m beginning to think sleep is dead - we had it working for a while a couple decades ago…

Expansion cards are ok, i mean over a number of years you may go from 2x usb-a to 2x usb-c instead with peripherals changing I guess.

Quality feel is very average and keyboard also very average, apparently it’s now hard to build thinkpad quality stuff.

Not a sleep issue, full shutdown and battery is drained!

oh, my bad. not sure i ever shut it down in like 2 years so i never noticed. that is weirder than usual…

Try resetting the BIOS.
On my FL13 7840U, the ports continue to supply power if the charger is connected, but will stop powering within 30 seconds if the charger is removed and the computer is shut down.

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Most people don’t equate higher power usage [while on and being used] to a parasitic drain while powered off.

I’ve been considering this a lot recently. It is a kind of sad fact that the best technology is doomed to go unnoticed. Maybe you are amazed the first one or two times you see it, but when something just works, and in a way that is just obvious to the user then you register that as the world working correctly. We are not astonished at the fact of gravity every time we jump, or in awe of the sun every day that it rises.

The best technology will simply blend in to the world around it and you will forget it is even there.

Misbehaving technology will be glaringly obvious and a source of constant frustration.

So, to be forgotten is really the best compliment that can ever be given to a design engineer.

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I’ve been using mine for about the same amount of time. I’ll comment on a few things you mentioned, then list some things of my own.

Audio issues (speaker crackling)

I believe this was acknowledged as an issue with the keyboard, which is why sometime last year, I believe, a new revision of the keyboard was released which purportedly solves this issue. I can’t confirm since I haven’t noticed that issue myself, but I usually have headphones plugged in.

Battery drain when powered off (main issue)

This was a significant issue for me, such that I enabled classic hibernate mode in Windows. I initially tried to disable modern standby, but the firmware doesn’t support that (even tried Smokeless, but that didn’t work). I currently have it set so if that battery drains more than 5% while sleeping (ends up being about 1-2 hours), it hibernates and powers off completely. This has resolved the battery drain issue satisfactorily for me.

BIOS updates & security

Completely agree with you here. With the issues I have (described below), I eagerly await a changelog that shows it being fixed. Changes are few and far between. I wish we had an open source bios. I’m not sure of coreboot is compatible or not (or reasonably usable).

Now, on to my own comments:

Wifi (on AMD model) is atrocious.

The mediatek card regularly doesn’t wake up properly from sleep and requires a full power off shutdown to fix. I had to replace it with an Intel card, which has reduced the frequency of this issue from about 80% of wakes to closer to 5%. Even when it still has problems, a simple reboot fixes it instead of a full power cycle. Bluetooth would even fail to function with the Mediatek. Haven’t noticed any BT issues with the Intel card. I’ve tried multiple drivers for Mediatek, the most recent one I found at the time helped a little, but not enough.

Left/right arrows keys are not the same size as the up/down

This is a very strong nitpick for me. It’s difficult for me to touch-type with the arrow keys because the mismatched size confuses me when I’m searching blindly for a key. Developers use arrows keys a lot, so I don’t consider that keyboard a “power user” keyboard. My work laptop (Dell) has symmetric arrows keys, with pgup/pgdn filling the space gap. That would be acceptable too.

The FW 16 has symmetrically sized keys, and I was hoping the Pro refresh would have finally fixed this issue. Aside from the wifi, it remains my single largest complaint about this laptop. I’m also disappointed they kept that key size for the new Framework Touchpad Keyboard. I really want one of those, but that key size kills me.

Monitor too bright

I know this is not likely to be relatable to others, but using it in a dark room, such as in bed, the lowest brightness setting of the 1st gen display is still too bright for me. I specifically didn’t get the 2nd gen because I didn’t want rounded corners. I saw the newest touchscreen one is brighter on the high end, but they don’t mention about the lower-end, so while I would like a touchscreen, I’m not willing to swap it out if it’s even brighter on the low-end.

Speakers

The under-facing speakers are the other issue I have, but the Pro model fixes it. I just figured I’d mention it for completeness.

Final Thoughts

Overall, I love it, and don’t regret the purchase. No laptop is perfect and, for me, the pros outweigh the cons. I’m already trying to figure out how I can upgrade to the pro over time to spread out the upgrade cost. :slight_smile:

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The bios is reset to default each time I update it or the battery dies on me.
And this is part of the annoyance as I have to reconfigure the charge limits, switch FN keys etc.

You’re right, English is not my main language :slight_smile: . It is indeed a parasitic drain.

100% agree, I only remember when the input cover pull some of my arm hair out of my skin. Or I have to re-align it. So far the realign happened only twice.

Yea, it is a bummer no one mentioned the issue tho. Many reviews and no mentions. I didnt see the issue for the first 20-ish days as I was using BT headphones. Now I always force myself to use them.

Yea, I (mostly) don’t care about standby, i always shut off the device. The problem is in the power off state. I have a some sort of parasitic drain.

Oh yea that is bad, but my official work laptop have the same issue. So for now I have muscle memory.

I don’t fully regret as well but if I would have waited some months if I new about the issue on the audio/keyboard rattling.

I noticed the hibernation/battery life issue seems to be a Windows problem. I noticed this on other laptops.

I think someone mentioned it earlier, but on the AMD series specifically, the rear two USB-C ports can have parasitic drain (separate from the issue I referred to) if you have USB-A modules there. I have the USB-C modules there, and two USB-A modules in the front expansion slots and haven’t noticed any drain while powered off/hibernating. It’ll last a week with barely a couple % drain in that state.

I never even tried it the other way because I wouldn’t want the USB-C ports I use for charging anywhere but as far back as they’ll go.

Have you tried removing the modules and leaving them disconnected while the system is powered off?

EDIT: Actually, I did a lot of BIOS tweaking (using smokeless umaf) trying to fix power and wifi issues, and it’s possible one or more of the options I changed affected the battery life in this situation. I’ll see if I can figure out what I changed.

Interestingly, using a display output module (HDMI or DP) on 1 and 3 slot will give a much higher power consumption. If you have to use HDMI/DP and TWO USB-A ports, plug the display expansion card on slot 4 and one of the two USB-A port on 1 or 3 the other on 2.

I tested the higher power consumption by using USB-A on port 1 and 3 and USB-C on port 2 and 4. I plugged in the receiver of a wireless mouse on 3 and an electric bug zapper (5V input, rechargeable) on port 1. I shut down the computer and unplugged the adapter. The charging light went off after 20 seconds, indicating the power to the port switched off. After 24 hours of off, I turned the laptop back on and the power went from 80% to 78%.

In conclusion, using USB-A on port 1 and 3 does not increase power consumption when the computer is off.

The answer is part of USB-C but in a very weird manner, see below.
Eureka moment: I found the culprit. It’s the USB-C PD negotiation.

When powered off, the USB-A expansion cards negotiate PD from the mainboard(all ports for expansion cards are USB-C) only once so it’s not a problem.
However, if you plug in a USB-C device into a USB-C expansion card, it’ll try to negotiate USB-C and the USB-C card will power on regardless of which port you are using. To make matters worse, this negotiation turns on all four ports, increasing power usage from these USB-A as well.
I tested by shutting down the computer and waiting for a minute, then I plugged in a smartphone to an USB-C port. The phone showed charging AND the charging light from the USB-A bug zapper illuminated.

Hope this is the answer you @hitech95 are looking for regarding why the Framework 13 drains battery while powered off.

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I remember one other negative about the system:

The trackpad is so sensitive, it triggers when picking up or setting down the computer and not even touching the trackpad. It triggers constantly. I can grip it by the front corners, inches away from the trackpad, and it triggers.

I hope the new trackpad fixes that.