12th Gen Intel Core BIOS 3.06 Beta

[rcm]

Thanks @Kieran_Levin

Does this address any of the other issues besides update issues?

[GhostLegion]

@rcm

Does this address any of the other issues besides update issues?

What other issues are there? I must have missed something or forgotten.

[rcm]

USB-A cards needing to be reinserted. That is a real PITA.

See 12th Gen Intel Core BIOS 3.06 Beta - #173 by Simon_F

[Cipher]

@Kieran_Levin

internal release for 3.07

Thanks for the update @Kieran_Levin , looking forward to test it out once it is released to public beta.
I do have a question regarding LVFS regression from fwupdmgr defaulting to file based capsule update, has this been addressed in the upcoming BIOS update?

[Simon_BN]

@Simon_F

USB-A is dead after reinserting the same drive multiple times.

I have the same problem on Gen12 (3.06) and an uptodate archlinux. Dmesg shows no output, when the expansion card is dead, so I think it is a hardware/firmware issue.

[blkhawk]

I am tempted to install it and see how my passified USB-A plugs will react. plugging stuff in would be equivalent to removing the whole card.

Thread here:

Passifying the USB-A Card

I read a lot about how the USB-A cards cause additional power-draw even when no device is plugged in so I modified a card so it only uses power when a device is plugged into its USB-A port. The Card signals to the main board that it is plugged in by having a 5.1k resistor pull-down to GND. [top] I started my mod by first isolating the shield of the USB-A socket by de-soldering the 4 tabs. This will isolate it from GND unless a shielded USB plug is inserted. [bottom] The next step is to re…

[Simon_BN]

@Simon_BN

Dmesg shows no output, when the expansion card is dead, so I think it is a hardware/firmware issue.

To correct myself: today and yesterday I noticed the same dmesg, when the card was dead:

[ 1020.051591] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache
[ 1020.231374] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronize Cache(10) failed: Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK

[Simon_BN]

@Simon_BN

I noticed the same dmesg, when the card was dead

The same dmesg happens on my Gen11 device. A new USB insert is not recognized for ~30 seconds. After that time the slot seams to recover itself and the inserted device gets recognized without re-inserting it.

[Wade_Richards]

@Kieran_Levin

I finally have our internal release for 3.07 which we are testing to validate it fixes the firmware update issues in 3.06. Assuming this all goes well we should be posting this for beta in the next few weeks.
This will also support the 61Wh battery, and has a number of other fixes.

It’s been 3 weeks. Is there any news on this 3.07 release?

[Kieran_Levin]

We found 2 additional issues we are trying to resolve during our release validation. Once we have an update we will post it here.

[GhostLegion]

@Kieran_Levin Speaking for the community, we appreciate the update.

On a more personal note, not to pester you or Framework in general but communication has been rather lacking on the software side. I think we all understand why you guys don’t announce new products before they’re done cooking in the oven but software is different. May I suggest a monthly post regarding various software projects/updates going on? It doesn’t have to be long or even terribly detailed but the lack of communication is disheartening and sometimes gives the impression that you guys don’t care, which I know isn’t true! Just a monthly status update regarding BIOS updates/issues and possible fixes that might be explored as well as Coreboot/other firmware projects (community ones too if/when those spring up!). Just a respectful request/suggestion, thank you.

[Kieran_Levin]

@GhostLegion Thanks for the suggestion. I agree I can do a better job communicating with the community. I will take your suggestion and see if we can do a monthly post about updates in software and firmware. We do have a lot of exciting new things happening including improved standalone bios update support.
On our upcoming AMD platform we are updating the EC to run chromium-ec on Zephyr.
We are also preparing updates for 12th and 11th gen to support the full capacity of the 61Wh battery.

[GhostLegion]

@Kieran_Levin Thank you so much! I appreciate the response!

[Mr_Rulf]

Is this BIOS still in beta or the latest stable version now? Just asking because some time passed since this was posted and while I haven’t read trough every post here, I’ve saw version 3.07 mentioned a few times, so the next version, however on the page for the 12th gen Bios it still says 3.04 is the latest one
https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/framework-laptop-bios-and-driver-releases-12th-gen-intel-core-Bkx2kosqq

[Karol_Hennessy1]

@Mr_Rulf it’s still beta.

[kelnos]

Hi @Kieran_Levin, thank you for providing updates on the new beta you’re testing internally. Looks like it’s been about 2 weeks since y’all found issues with it that needed to be resolved before release. Can you give an update as to when those issues will be resolved and tested, and it’ll be released to the community as a beta?

I only ask because I am working with Framework support on an unrelated issue (the 400MHz throttling problem), and they suggested I update to the 3.06 beta to see if that helps. Given the issues reported in this thread, I’m a little uncomfortable updating, and would rather wait for the 3.07 beta. But the throttling issue has started becoming unbearable… if the 3.07 beta isn’t going to be out in the next week or so, I may decide to give the 3.06 beta a shot, despite my concerns.

Thank you!

[meehien]

Any updates on this?

[Paul_Langford]

Can we get an ETA on this bios update please!