In this GitHub issue I recorded some various comparisons showing the symptoms.
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Good data, thanks for providing. Guess Iāll see what my results will be once I receive mine. Still roughtly 2 weeks out (back order). Wish I was as techy as many of you folks on here. Iāve basically been educating myself for years.
Edit: Funny how the notification posted on that forum says that for 3.05 the power issues were addressed for the 240w 
apparently not!
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The FW16 180W PSU reports in the USB PD CC messages:
Overload Capabilities: 01
Peak current equals 150% IoC for 1ms @ 5% duty cycle (low current equals 97% IoC for 19ms)
Peak current equals 125% IoC for 2ms @ 10% duty cycle (low current equals 97% IoC for 18ms)
Peak current equals 110% IoC for 10ms @ 50% duty cycle (low current equals 90% IoC for 10ms)
So, IoC is 180W, and FW16 180W PSU should be able to peak to 240W for 1ms.
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Now the question is does the pd controller tell the ec about those? Cause the charge controller can be configured for this kind of peaking behavior (then again I am not sure that works in bypass mode)
@obasav didnāt you also get the 500w ugreen nexode? I also bought one on prime day. Yesterday is swapped in my dgpu and really tested the new power supply and it feels better than the delta. Did you observe the same?
Howās your experience? Is it grounded? What does the āreduce power after tipping overā feature actually do?
I donāt have a Ugreen nexode 500W charger, Iām still using the delta 240W PD one. Iāve just been setting the charge control to idle and bypassing the battery charge/fps fluctuations issue that way.
Has anyone got the HKY 240W charger yet? Curious to know if results are any different to the Delta charger.
I saw a post on the subreddit by someone who got it and decided to return it after running some tests. Iām waiting to see more peopleās experiences with it before I decide. I really want something other than the Delta, which seems to have many issues, and the Ugreen which is not in the form factor I am looking for.
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Wait the BIOS update! See if they fix this power management issue before buying something
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Agreed! We have all been patiently waiting for a stable BIOS release for quite sometime now. Itās way past due and is very concerning to me at the moment. Hopefully we will have it before the year ends.
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Still quite shocking how Iāve been on 3.05 for most of the time Iāve had my FW16 from batch 17ā¦
What bios update? Itās been 8? months now? I have lost hope. They have completely turtled and are not even letting us know any status anymore. That usually means one of two things. Unfixable, or abandoned.
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Iām still holding on to a shrivel of hope that some of the other projects they have been doing have just taken priority but they will come back to it..
The current power management of the EC has a bug that causes the GPU to draw very little power on 240W but works normally on 180W, an update is supposed to fix it
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They were supposed to release an update to fix the keyboard having power/being active with the lid closed (causing wakeups in bags) but nothing on that either. These type of bug fixes donāt take 8 months if done by any competent developer.
Itās just frustrating to have an obviously incomplete product I paid a lot of money for, not getting completed because the company wants to move on to different products.
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Where is it that we should be getting the most recent updates from FW? Is it here on the community or some other social media platform? I donāt really use social media but would love to hear where they are at with all this. Has anyone tried to tag some of the staff through here?
They post the firmware update information here in the forums. I donāt know if they post anywhere else, but here is where I have seen the information.
Matt_Hartley is the Linux lead and I believe the employee who is most active here. He has also strangely not commented on very many 16 posts lately, but tons of 12 and even 13 posts.
I continue to check the support/download page about every other day in hopes there is a new bios update added.. your observation about the attention toward the 12 and 13s is a little concerning, however. The 16 really is a nifty laptop after working out kinks and Iād fail to understand why it would have the potential for abandonment so early in its life. They have really gone back to older models and done a lot of work there since their launch. Not expecting full new hardware for 16s this soon but the support should not be lacking as it appears to be.
Edit: typo
FW16 sold way better than expected and overwhelmed production for months - no idea why someone would abandon that product right after launch. By now the only explanation I can come up with, is that Nirav personally wants to play with AI and doesnāt care about the FW16.
The offical page will only tell you about stable releases, if you want Beta, you need to look at the forum. I recommend checking less to avoid the frustration the FW16 forum contains.
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