I have a Dell HD22Q and HP Thunderbolt G4.
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Perfect. That is what I was waiting for since one year. Now that it arrived so late, I had hoped to get 5Gbit Ethernet, but that is not so important currently.
Lets see the real prices.
300W (Dell Systems)
240W (non-Dell Systems)
So I highly doubt that Dell dock would ever do more than 240W for Framework computers, unless someone at Dell specifically reaches out to Framework to discuss working on that proprietary protocol together.
The USB-C standard only goes to 240W at this time, and Framework has historically been against doing anything proprietary whenever reasonably possible.
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Oh no, I highly doubt it will work safely even if they reach out. I doubt that FW16 has electronics disigned to take more than 5A continuously, even if you reverse engineer the handshake. 240w is more than enough and itās a full featured thunderbolt 5 dock.
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Has anyone tried this sketchy looking 240W PSU?
Looks like thereās other similar looking adapters on there now too by other brands, Iād assume theyāre probably the exact same product. My FW 240 is supposed to ship next month, but Iām using my FW 16 a lot more now and am itching to have a 2nd adapter so I donāt need to move it all the time.
Very interesting. I would be a little apprehensive about the level of QC that went into it and longevity (past the 30 day return window). Or it may be the best ever madeā¦.there is only one way to find out if you wanna risk $89.99. Or perhaps 1 person can buy(who also has a dGPU) to test it for the rest of us and we will need 10 volunteers to pitch in $9 each to help with the effortā¦.Just an idea!
Maybe a safer bet. Try the FW 240W charger:
Probably only get it in December though. 
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I already pre-ordered one, it should arrive Nov. Iām just antsy. I donāt plan to take the risk myself, but if someone here said āyeah, it works perfectā then I could pick it up as a 240 for now, and a backup in the bag for the future.
Sameā¦ I pre-ordered it back in August and wonāt even ship until December.
That is way overpriced considering the no-name supplier. That Delta one (well known brand) was released at the same price ($90) originally.
Besides, no reason to buy any 240w right now until Framework fixes their firmwareā¦.if ever.
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What is broken on the FW firmware?
I have a custom EC firmware that removes the games stutter problem, if that is what you need.
Warning: BIOS 4.01 appreciation post
4.01 solved all battery drain problems with 180W whan in Balanced mode and solved all the stuttering mess I had with the 240W Delta brick.
Running latest Windows (Atlas OS to be exact), 2.06 Framework OEM drivers (but Adrenaline updated to 25.10.01 optional in order to play Battlefield 6).
Issues persist using 140W Baseus charger, but 1) itās not officially supported if you have the dGPU and 2) avoiding stuttering is possibile by using āMaximum efficiencyā power plan or limiting the total TDP to ~60/65W using āFramework Control Centerā, so not perfect but acceptable.
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Has anyone had their FW 240W adapter ship yet? My batch 3 is supposed to ship in āNovemberā but Nov. is almost gone and I havenāt even seen record of batch 1ās shipping yet.
Iām batch 2 and this morning I just got my pre-ship notification email.
āYour order is shipping soon! The outstanding balance will be charged in 3-18 days, and the order will be shipped 1-3 days after payment is complete.ā
So mine wont begin its journey to me until 4-21 days have passed. Will be interesting to see if it operates better than the delta 240 charger.
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Mine is batch #5 so it will be a little bit before I get mine. Please do share any testing results/experience in using it in various scenarios/heavy loads etcā¦ very interested to know. Thanks!
Oh, it looks like I got the same message less than 30 minutes after my post, lol!
Your order is shipping soon! The outstanding balance will be charged in 3-18 days, and the order will be shipped 1-3 days after payment is complete.
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I bought this one from AliExpress, I think itās the same.
Basically it has this issue where it randomly drops out charging. Sometimes it restarts in a few seconds causing stuttering in games because it switches TDP limits, and sometimes it just totally stops and falls back to my other 40w charger. Tried various combinations of moving USB C expansion port.
My machine is connected to a Thunderbolt dock at the same, so sometimes I check and the 240W charger dropped out and itās using the 40W charging from my dock and my battery is at 70% because Iām using the dedicated GPU.
Iām using a Framework 16 AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS with BIOS 4.0.3
I bought a USB C PD tester, and it negotiates the 48V 5A fine, but just randomly drops out.
I expect this is a FW BIOS/EC issue, can provide any info necessary, hopefully FW investigates.
Stop using the aliexpress charger. 50V is not a valid PD voltage. 48V is. If the charger cannot get that right, what else is it doing wrong? I would not trust it.
Sorry, the PD tester indeed shows 48V, I remembered incorrectly. Edited post.
What does the pd tester say when it drops? Does it reduce from 48V to 20V or something like that?
Knowing what voltage it drops to helps.