Because the charge controller is explicitly told not to do that, that has nothing to do with what the adapter is actually capable of.
The charge controller could also be told to limit to 100% of negotiated and allow 200% for 1ms (with a cooldown). I have played around with that on the 13 (uses the same controller) and it didn’t do much there but we also have somewhat lower power requirements there XD.
So i send back my UGREEN Charger, the BETA BIOS 3.06 didn’t fix the issue withe the stuttering, so i decided im just gona wait for the official charger. But a cupple of days ago i was sent the “New ALPHA BIOS 3.07”. so i was wandering if anyone is interested in trying it with the UGREEN charger.
I think it is great that you have been offered an alpha bios. I suggested FW do that a while ago. I.e. you report a specific problem, FW try to fix it, and give you an alpha to try. It let’s them confirm they have actually fixed it or not. If it fixes it for you, they then include it in the next release.
The alpha is unlikely to be useful to anyone else.
jep seams right, the thing is it isn’t that specific to my problem it’s quite broad according to the fix list. give me a moment, im going to check if there is anything in the E-Mail regarding not to share it, when there is not im just going to Paste it in this forum including the download links (I know sketchy .exe liks from strangers but im NOT pressuring anyone to download it)
“We apologize for the delay while continuing to follow up with our Engineering team about this further. Good news is we have an Alpha BIOS we would like you to try. This will be the 3.07 Alpha BIOS. Below is the information and download links for this Alpha release;
Thanks for the feedback. I hope there are fixes in the pipeline so we don’t see the same behavior with the upcoming 240W Framework charger.
Just out of curiosity: when I used the UGREEN charger with my battery at 100% SoC after a restart, I didn’t encounter the stuttering problem. However, the results were still inconsistent. Have you also noticed that?
No, sadly the stutters are following me like the plague.
I tried to rollback to 3.06 and change drivers (official FW latest, official FW previous and public AMD) to no avail. 240W stutters in every power setting, 180 does not. I went back to 3.06, latest OEM drivers (framework bundle) and 180w for now.
Let them resolve the issues they are already dealing with currently for the 240w before you consider jumping higher.. likely issues to present themselves there too.
300w is only for Dell’s special charging tech, it just allows for higher amperage at 6+A for supported (dell) laptops. But for anything else it is a plain old full-spec PD3.1 240W max.
I am already on preorder for FW charger soooo…
Just for everyone’s awareness and planning purposes wanted to mention that I placed an order for the FW 240W power supply and it is slated to ship as part of Batch 5 in December. So if you want one this year, I recommend placing the order now.
Oh wow, this is cool! This is the dock I’ve been waiting for!
I bet it’ll have crippling firmware and compatibility issues and you wouldn’t really want to use it with anything other than a Dell. That’s how it’s been with every Dell dock for as long as I can remember
What you are describing is HP docks to me. My Dell dock is miles better than 2x the price HP one and gets firmware updates regularly on LVFS.
And, at least from the manual, it seems that they haven’t locked any features behind Dell own hardware, only added on top of what PD/USB doesn’t have, unlike HP.
Perfect. That is what I was waiting for since one year. Now that it arrived so late, I had hoped to get 5Gbit Ethernet, but that is not so important currently.
Lets see the real prices.
So I highly doubt that Dell dock would ever do more than 240W for Framework computers, unless someone at Dell specifically reaches out to Framework to discuss working on that proprietary protocol together.
The USB-C standard only goes to 240W at this time, and Framework has historically been against doing anything proprietary whenever reasonably possible.