Reading your replies and doing some research, I believe the best is to start with Fedora 38 (not 39 Beta), since it is tested and recommended by Framework’s community. If things get hard, I will go for dual boot with W10. I just hope the newly released AMD systems will coop with it.
@rangho I see you are a veteran in using Linux, this is not my case . It would be too much of a difference for me between Windows and one of these naked Linux distributions.
@Mark1 wouldn’t virtual machine make the Windows run poorly?
To some degree, yes. It really depends on what you’re going to do.
CPU-wise, KVM provides more than enough performance for running Windows, and QXL/Spice display is pretty snappy for some light works.
Graphic-intensive tasks such as gaming or video editing—that might require a full GPU passthrough to be usable. (I do this on my desktop, so basically having two PCs in one box.)
If you need Windows for very specific Windows-only applications, it is definitely a viable option.
It would run less optimal, yes.
But for my usecase it would be fine on this beast of a system.
I would use if for some ms office work, some tools that don’t have a linux alternative, and basically as a psychological thing; knowing I have it available on my laptop removes some anxiety. Maybe I should call it Wine-XL
Also it doesn’t need a fixed separate partition. So it won’t use up any dedicated space.
Downside is that it’s obviously less powerful.
And it means I will have to rely on the linux power saving/sleep/hibernation stuff, which still makes me a bit uncomfortable.
I have been using a macbook air for 12 years now. And still every time I open the lid, it is instant on, and did not lose much power. I’m afraid my 12 year newer laptop won’t compete properly here :S
Well, I guess this is an appropriate time now for this question.
Which RAM configuration are you planning to get and why?
I’m thinking of grabbing two Crucial 16GB DDR5-5600 sticks since it seems the cheapest option, but I’m thinking of upgrading it into 2x24GB set for extra 70 euros.
Got myself 2x16GB Kingston Fury Impact 5600 40 CL
Just waiting on my FW to arrive and try them out.
According to other posts they should be fine though.
Crucial should be fine, too. Just don’t go for 5200.
Other posts indicate that you could run into trouble with 5200.
Cool! Just as a reference, what do you plan to use the Framework for?
I’m a software developer working on stuff like Windows driver development to Python server programming, and my 8-year-old Samsung laptop is struggling super hard.
I needed those juicy AMD performance and configurable RAM.
It’s mostly going to be my daily driver, not for professional use.
Probably going to run Win11 for a while to run some tests on performance and trying some light gaming. Honestly I just really wanted a new, lighter and slightly smaller laptop with exactly this CPU (7840U).
I currently run a 4-year-old 14 inch ThinkPad which struggles with performance, heat and battery life. Probably gonna turn this one into a Linux machine and use it for random hobby projects.
I’m pretty stoked about getting the FW soon, ngl.
Already got the RAM, SSD and check this forum multiple times a day, lol.
Daily driver as well, it’s why I’m getting just the Ryzen 5. I’m replacing an old Surface Pro 6 whose battery decided to lose 70% of capacity. Loved the portability of the machine, but I can’t replace/repair anything and I’m actually excited to have to fix my framework in 3-5 years.
16GBs (2 x 8) of RAM here.
Not going to be doing anything too crazy with it, so I won’t need anything really more than that.
Went with the Framework RAM as it was only a few dollars extra than slightly lower spec ram here, and it’s guaranteed to be compatible.
I’ll upgrade if I need to, but don’t see that needing to be done for a couple of years. (Been getting by fine with 8GBs for a number of years)
Dual booting with Kubuntu and Windows 11.
Full stack web development, some lighter (hobbyist) C++ dev in Kubuntu.
And Windows 11 just to play some low intensive games.
Based on the emails Batch 3 and 4 Guilds have received, it looks like it only took about a week for Framework to start shipping new shipments. If they stay on the current trajectory, I believe (hopefully) they’ll start shipping our batch 5 by next week.
Edit: Also, if everyone is thinking about purchasing Crucial 32GB of RAM from Amazon right now, it looks like they won’t be shipping till early November. Mine kit is set to arrive by November 7th. :T
If you guys need them before, Adorama and B&H are also selling them at the same price with free shipping.
Thanks a lot for these links! I was wondering what ram to get, and after reading the first part of your post I was in a bit of a panic to pick some up quick. I’m ordering the 2x16gb pack. I wish I could snag a 1x32gb so I wouldn’t have to toss one of the 16gb sticks when I inevitably upgrade later, but considering I’m only going to be using my machine for web dev, browsing, photo management, and maybe some graphic design work (using a Windows VM in Ubuntu), I think 32gb will last me a good long time.
Daily driver here as well.
Web, mail, some light scripting/programming.
It’s why I went for the 7640; plenty for my usecase.
And it’s about 390euro’s cheaper which I can spend a few years from now on an upgrade.
Already bought an SK hynix Gold P31 2TB, mainly because it’s incredibly power efficient and fast enough.
And planning on installing 2x16gb RAM.
I’m in batch 5 as well and very excited that we’re so close to having it shipped. I ordered mine without RAM and hard drive, so I need to look into that and order something soon, appreciate all the suggestions that have been posted here already.
. It would be too much of a difference for me between Windows and one of these naked Linux distributions.
