Very excited to see the final specs. FM12 should be a lot more versatile than a Chromebook.
I love it and I will recommend it to anybody that just needs a basic laptop, but I won’t be getting it because I have a 16.
Okay, so I did the math and assuming that the laptops are the same density the cautious estimate is about 2.5lb and the estimate I think is more inline is 2.2lb and an extreme estimate (if they made the plastic thin) is about 2.0 lb
alternatively, if we assume that about 30% of the laptop’s weight is the chassis (reasonable considering its made out of aluminum) then a fw13 sized laptop made out of pc/abs would weigh 2.4lbs. Applying our volume estimates, the FL12 might weigh 2.1lb with a conservative volume estimate and 1.7 with an aggressive volume estimate.
this is speculation and I don’t know how much of the FL13 is aluminum but everything else seems to otherwise be scaled appropriately in that laptop except for the screen, expansion cards and webcam.
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So, I did some calculations:
The Framework 12.2" is about 8.62% smaller than the Framework 13.3", if the name is indicative of the screen size. According to this article from Tom’s Hardware, the screen is 16:10. I also compared both the 13.3 and the 12.2 against your assumption that the Asus Chromebook CR11 is comparable size-wise.
Putting these metrics together, we should expect the dimensions of the Framework 12 to be approximately 29.48cm x 18.43cm x 1.91cm. Someone can double-check my math.
Screen size is not a good indicator. Sadly can’t find it anymore. Either on reddit or somewhere in the forum someone took a screen grab ob the motherboard from the Linus video. Then they measured the chassis size based on the size of the quick swap modules.
The width they came up with was around 29.5 too. Height was 20cm+
Thickness hard to gauge, but around 2 cm I would guess.
Edit: Found it Introducing the Framework Laptop 12 - #81 by felurx
- FW12 287x214mm
- FW13 297x229mm
I think the difference are the bezels. Saw some renderings without bezels, but in the LTT video there are huge (for nowadays standards) screen bezels https://youtu.be/-lErGZZgUbY?si=65scv9mWFlOjB0da&t=593
Personally don’t mind them for a convertible.
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There’s a lot about the Framework 12 that I like. Not sure if I’ll buy one. First, my Framework 13 works fine and is already more powerful, secondly, Framework needs to demonstrate that they take Firmware updates seriously before I’ll buy anything from them again. The current situation is awful. Thirdly, I’m not a student and would prefer a higher class laptop.
On the other hand, I really like the convertible mode and a touchscreen and the new case.
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My 13 fits the same purpose. It runs well and I pre-ordered the new AMD 300 board. I wouldn’t replace it, but I might consider the 12" in the future.
Depending on how inexpensive the FW 12 is, I may get one for…testing. Yeah, for science. That justifies it…right?
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One thing I like is that it doesn’t look to have any air intakes on the bottom. So it can sit on a lap covered by a throw blanket, or on a pillow, or whatever without worrying about blocking the cooling vents. Granted, passively cooled would be great, but that’s probably not practical for the price and performance target they were aiming for. But simply moving the intake off the bottom is still an improvement over the FW 13, in my opinion. At least, for my use case as a daily driver.
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yeah, I want one.
donno how soon I’ll get it, as I’m still paying for my 13, and not thrilled about the possible absence of a backlit keyboard, but I’ll live…probably.
almost certainly getting it before the 16, not really interested in getting a first gen 16 unless the price drops by about half, and I’ve still got almost two years left on the warranty for my current gaming laptop.
the 12 though…just found out like last week that my last 12" is unrepairable, framework had great timing there 
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I was sold on switching to a FW13 from System76 until I saw the 12, and now I think I’m going to wait for the 12.
My only hesitation is the aspect ratio (I really miss 4:3) and of course impatience 
But if the convertible features & pen work OK under Linux (ideally ElementaryOS), then it could replace a lot of other equipment I use and any added toughness is a huge bonus.
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I guess we can expect some Hockney pictures once you get one … 
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The 12 honestly felt to me like the only on brand, on mission announcement at the event. (aside from the mainboard upgrades ofc)
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Absolutely hyped for the FW12, more so than I was hyped for the Steam Deck.
I was looking for a “family/traveling computer” to prevent my children from being sucked into the iPad universe. It always breaks my heart to see it happen because kids are naturally attracted to physical keyboards. The FW12 will serve as my daughter’s first PC assembly ceremony and then we can finally look up Pokémon stats together on a proper screen instead of my phone. I just need to figure out which distro is the easiest to lock down (restrict websites etc.)
I understand that the current configuration is optimized for schools, but I hope that FW releases an AMD APU configuration for us individual buyers in the future so that we can enjoy some very basic games in tent mode. I was about to get the ROG Flow X13 instead, but it’s just not as cheerful, and even their SKU without an Nvidia GPU does not seem to have perfect Linux support.
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Not really hyped. But i already have adn Framework Laptop 13. But if I didn’t already had one I would probably go for the 12" version.