I can write software and maybe program some chips, but manufacturing a hardware product myself seems like an impossible task right now 
Maybe, some day!
This probably isn’t very useful information, but I don’t need any new features at the moment. My Framework 13 is pretty great as it is. I am probably less of an upgrader than most on this forum I guess.
I just want to be able to repair my machine if anything breaks. And if something breaks that has an upgrade in the store, I’ll see if the cost difference is worth it to me, assuming a like for like replacement is still available.
For instance, if my battery died, I’d get the larger one (upgrade), if my screen died, I’d get the lower resolution matte one (no upgrade).
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Timely BIOS updates, better compatibility with various Linux distributions, good customer support. That’s it, no new gimmicks.
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Fully debugged bios, drivers, etc.
Build-to-order option, with comprehensive testing before shipping. (So I can order a complete system with different options than the pre-builts, like 4tb storage with cheaper processor, and then be confident that it will work without me having to fiddle with it. I’ve been spoiled by Puget Systems desktops).
Better thermal paste (depending on investigation of the hotspots & fan noise I’ve seen reported).
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- Glossy mini-LED screen, with a small deltaE (surprised that matte is now the only option available)
- A taller screen (smaller bottom fame/“chin”)
- Swap Fn and Ctrl keys (physically)
- A different strategy for air intake (bottom is often covered if you’re using the laptop on your lap)
- LPCAMM2
- Ability to lower total package power in BIOS (eg. set up 22W instead of 28W)
- Further fan management improvements (getting random spin ups to max for 1s and then turned immediately off when plugged to power and charging - 7840u)
- Stiffer keyboard (not as crisp compared to some thinkpads)
- Stiffer hinge by default (heavy is great)
Good news on this front. Framework has recently switched to PTM7958, phase-change thermal paste on all their machines.
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100% this. Touchscreen is the most exciting feature of the FW12 for me, would love to have it on my FW13
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I’m sounding like a broken record at this point, some forgotten points in my previous message:
- A BIOS option for: Password required upon reboot [Enabled / Disabled]
- A Fn-Lock LED indicator (this has been requested since 2021/2022.
- A Muted Speaker LED indicator.
- User-replaceable feet / pads
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QMK support for the keyboard! I want to remap the capslock and control keys at the hardware level.
Kensington Lock support. Sometimes it’s good enough in a place where I just need to keep honest people honest.
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After 3 years with my FW 13 —
probably the FW 12-like chassis. I don’t mean the size, I mean the build (and the colors).
This thing is bendy. The material is flimsy, but worse, top and bottom cover have loose contact. Instead of forming a convex shape that distributes the load, this leaves the bottom cover as a concave structure that just loves to bend at the corners. (To be fair, the lid also loves that.)
So FW 12 with FW 13 size and internals (and externals).
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LCD screen is fine as it is PWM free and I generally prefer IPS over OLED (I know, i’m weird).
Expansion card selection is good - not missing anything for me.
The only real feature I want is a haptic touchpad and it is the only thing keeping me from buying a FW13. I bought one and sent it back because I just couldn’t go back to diving board after using macbooks for years. I really wish you guys would put one on there so I can ditch macOS and go to Linux…
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That’s not guaranteed, unfortunately. Stupidly, some laptops have PWM in the LCD backlight…
NotebookCheck.net tests for backlight PWM.
Yeah it is why like every TV OLED or not still contain PWM. I have also used that site quite a bit for checking laptops! I wish every manufacturer would get rid of that horrible tech.
Is there even good support for haptic touchpads in Linux yet? Support for a lot lags behind because peripheral makers act like they’re allergic to even releasing open documentation on how to control their devices, so that the community could add support for them, for free. And God forbid that most peripheral makers actually submit kernel patches to add support themselves.
Anyone happen to know? Perhaps have one of the few laptops with a haptic touchpad, such as the Lenovo ThinkPad Z13, Z16, or Z16 Gen 2?
Lenovo created a config tool, a good while after the Z13 & Z16 release I might add! wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_Z13#ForcePad. But it looks to only works for the Z13 Gen 1 & Z16 Gen 1. It seems configuration sucks for Z16 Gen 2. wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_Z16_Gen_2#Haptic_Touchpad
Configuration for click sensitivity has not yet been identified,
The device reverts to default settings after reboot
Last update from Lenovo staff in this thread was over a year ago, forums.lenovo.com/t5/Fedora/How-to-configure-the-Z13-Z16-trackpad-in-Linux/m-p/5169841.
I want to see Haptic Touchpads in Frameworks too, yesterday. But if support is a mess, then it won’t be a good experience. And FW does not have the resources of Lenovo to be able to push a peripheral maker like Elan to provide them the control commands.
Hello,
An haptic touchpad would definitly make me move from Apple MacBook to Framework.
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Same here, I would like to see a QMK keyboard for FW13 as well, all my keyboard are running QMK, the majority of the time I’m using external keyboard but there are times I’m in a meeting room and keep pressing the wrong key for my 2nd layer lol
I like the idea of an OLED screen and a Haptic touchpad. Both would be bring the FW12/13/16 up to modern standards
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I’m not sure if two fans would even fit, but having them would definitely be an improvement over a single one. Despite the thermal improvements in the last generation, the cooling system still struggles to keep up. When under sustained load, performance eventually drops due to thermal throttling.
As for haptic touchpads, Linux support still seems limited, so including one might bring more complications than actual benefits. That said, if someone has hands-on experience or knows otherwise, I’d be glad to hear it.
Oled touch screen with stylus support
2-in-1 chassis with colored plastic like FW12
Haptic touchpad
IR facial recognition fits 2-in-1 better than fingerprint
LPCAMM2 and extra space for quieter fan or extra ssd