"For storage, we’ve put in two M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen4x4 sockets, one of which is 2280-sized and other 2230-sized. We attempted to fit two 2280 sockets, but with everything else we’re doing on the Mainboard, we ran out of space. "
There will probably be an expansion bay module that holds two 2280s. Framework has an example of such a module on their github. Now, Framework has not confirmed that they will sell it. But if they don’t, I bet a community member or other 3rd party will.
Yes, I am aware of the deep dive, that’s why I have mentioned it in my post. My point is that this time they had to design the whole notebook under presumably tough time constraints. Having presumably less time constraints for the second+ generations, I imagine to be a way to redesign some part of the mainboard to fit it in.
There are always going to be time constraints. And the next Framework-16 mainboard will have the additional constraints of needing to fit the existing components. Besides the shell, there are the internal connector locations, cable routing, some heatpipe routing cutouts in the shell. Considering all that, it feels like they will be rather restricted from shifting much around. I just wouldn’t bet on them finding room.
Any laptop just can’t fit every single desire people have. It would weigh 10 kg, have 3 20" fold-out screens, a 360 camera, and need a shoulder strap.
You can still put in two 2TB drives which is plenty of space for most people. You can even use the same model drive if it comes in both sizes like the SN740. Honestly, it’s better than having only one NVMe spot.
I think that’s a reasonable ask. I don’t need to mirror but I’d like the highest performance drive for the OS drive and the largest drive for data. That won’t work with this configuration.
Other laptops have two 2280s so so it’s not impossible. They chose to prioritize other things. Even if it was the best decision they had, they should hear from the people who are disappointed. My current laptop is only a couple years old so I can wait and see what’s next. I suppose if I get one and put the OS on the 2230, it won’t be that bad a performance hit. I’d like to see how the PCIe lanes are divided out. Is the 2230 off the CPU or the chipset?
They chose upgradability and interchangable parts which affects the design layout and requirements.
In these other laptops, what, other than RAM and SSDs, can you replace yourself? Or, for that matter, at all?
Like the people who want ECC and more VRAM, the laptops have been designed with a specific idea, upgradabiity, in mind, it isn’t a bespoke, custom made laptop for everyone that comes and shouts about “essential features”.
If people are disappointed or upset by the lack of a certain feature, don’t buy the laptop, go buy one of the many others on the market that do have your feature or ask Dell, ASUS, Acer etc to add them to their current line or you won’t buy.