i wanted to get a 1920x1200 panel for .. no particular reason?
1600p is a tiny touch too small. And I dont want to scale.
I found this .. the Dell NV160WUM-N42/N45. Will that work?
For others, there’s also a 240Hz 1600p from Lenovo Y9000P, the NE160QDM-NZ3.
Both of these have the PCB on the back. So. No workie.
How about the Dell Inspiron 16 Plus 3072x1920 B160AN01.0 (NE160F8M-N41)?
The Huawei Matebook D16 NV160WUM-NH0/NH3.
Wrong connector.
Also Framework’s NE160QDM-NZ6 is bloody not that expensive. Damn that’s a fine display. huh.
I remember there was a post a while ago with a few others that could maybe work: Feature Request for 2nd Gen Framework 16" Laptop - WQUXGA Screen - #8 by Gmanny
I think the only way we’ll know for sure is if an alternative display is tested, or if maybe framework has a new one come out sometime
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When I investigated this, it became apparent that the display-side connector is not standardized much, so you need to be very careful to match every pin from the laptop to the right pin on the display side. In the absence of any data sheets either from Framework or third-party displays this can be done loosely by checking where the grounds are in that connector, and if they match one of the common pinouts, hoping that it’s that one. (See example here)
I also got an impression that laptop-side pinout is also not really very standardized and that shuffling the pins from the laptop to a display is a common practice. Meaning that getting a different eDP cable from the one you already have in the laptop might shuffle the pins in a wrong way.
In addition to that, display connectors can have two pin pitches - 0.4mm and 0.5mm. Framework uses 0.4mm on both sides, so if the display you want has 0.5mm pin pitch, you’d need some kind of adapter to connect it to the laptop. DisplayPort is a very high speed interface and its signal wires need to have a certain electrical characteristic (impedance, I think) throughout all the way between source and display. Laptop and display manufacturers can agree on that number before production, but you’d then need to match it, incl. the adapter.
Oh, and Framework’s display has electronics below the panel, so you’d have trouble fitting any display with electronics on its back into the laptop.
I am not an expert at all in those things, but this was enough for me to see that unless Framework works on a display option, it’d be really hard to come up with a viable display replacement myself.
And I didn’t mention that eDP can be 40-pin and 30-pin. That 40-pin eDP can be 2-lane or 4-lane. And that backlight power supply is also pretty much a thing specific for each display, so it might be that Framework has to update the BIOS to support each new display option by reading display’s EDID and then programming the backlight power supply for a particular panel.
PS. Again, I’m not an expert. I could be spouting 100% bullshit. Treat me as if you were reading an LLM’s output.
Framework’s “stock” is NE160QDM-NZ6. 4-lanes eDP, eDP 1.4b 40-pins. 4-lanes, 3.3V Typ. I-PEX. 12V (typ) voltage supply. No lamp information. But is 11S8P(11 group in series, 8 LED per group).
Yes. I think all of the options I mentioned are 40 pins.
NE160WUM-NX1 is 40 pin. eDP 1.4. HBR1. This is 4-lanes. 3.3V Typ.
This use the STM 0.5mm connector.
You also have the Innolux N160JME-GQA. eDP (4 lanes), eDP 1.4b, 40 pins. I-PEX connector. However its LED is 12S6P. It want 30.8V lamp, ± 2.2V. Could be close enough.
The B160UAK01.5, which is a touchscreen. However it’s 2-lanes eDP, and eDP 1.2, but still 40 pins, and 3.3V Typ. STM connector.
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| Name |
Depth |
Shape/Style |
Color (NTSC) |
Interface Brand |
Signal Lane |
eDP ver |
Lamp Voltage |
Config |
Drive Voltage |
Drive Power |
Notes |
| NE160QDM-NZ6 |
2.15/2.3 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
98.00% |
I-PEX 20682-040E-02 |
4 |
eDP 1.4b |
N/A |
11S8P |
05_12_21 |
6.95W |
Framework stock |
| N160JCN-ELK |
3.05±.15 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
47.00% |
I-PEX 20525-040E-02 |
2 |
eDP 1.2 |
28.5± 1.5 |
|
05_12_20 |
3.6W |
|
| N160JCN-ELL |
3.0 max |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
N/A |
30 pin |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| NV160WUM-T02 |
2.85/3 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
45.00% |
STM |
2 |
1.2 |
|
11S6P |
05_12_21 |
4.1w |
|
| B160UAK01.2 |
3.05/3.2 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
46.00% |
I-PEX 20738-040E-02 |
2 |
1.2 |
|
|
05_12_21 |
1.7W |
|
| B160UAK01.5 HW0A |
2.85/3.0 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
47.00% |
STM |
2 |
1.2 |
|
|
05_12_21 |
3.65W |
|
| B160QAT02.C |
3.97/5.97 |
|
107.00% |
I-PEX 20682-040E-02 |
4 |
1.4 |
|
|
05_12_21 |
19.1 |
|
| NV160WUM-K01 |
3.2 Max |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
|
I-PEX 20682-040E-02 |
2 |
1.2 |
|
|
05_12_21 |
|
NO DATASHEET |
| B160UAK01.5 HW3A |
2.85/3 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
47.00% |
STM |
2 |
1.2 |
|
|
05_12_21 |
3.65W |
|
| B160UAK01.5 HW2A |
2.85/3 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
47.00% |
STM |
2 |
1.2 |
|
|
05_12_21 |
3.65W |
|
| B160UAK01.8 |
3.05/3.2 |
PCBA Flat, <3.2 |
47.00% |
I-PEX 20738-040E-02 |
2 |
1.2 |
|
|
05_12_21 |
3.6W |
|
I had spent enough time looking at these. I need a break.
If someone want to carry the torch, feel free.
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