Pretty sure he was stating that Putin was displeased with the increasing alignment towards NATO and EU in Ukraine. Needing a pretext for invasion, Putin has called for “de-nazifying” Ukraine and invaded. The parallel is being drawn that similarly people are being labeled as “nazis” unjustly.
Thank you for the summery Arya, very well put. This thread is completely off the rails and highlights the concerns you put forth in your post. This community is (or perhaps was) no small reason to buy a Framework laptop, but it seems to be unraveling.
Absolutely. If you’re not blanket supporting every open source project you’re making a decision to selectively support projects. If you have some set of standards, some criteria to be met (something beyond ‘this is cool’ and more like ‘does this project meet our community standards and have relevance to our core mission), and a committee or group that does that selecting it helps insulates you as a company from this type of blow back and keeps your company focused on what it should be focused on.
What a completely unforced error. I hope they right the ship.
Additionally I can’t recall any major incidents since that one… I’m trying to investigate further to see if things are better now but, so far, as a PRELIMINARY look at things mind you, things seem… Actually not bad now? The things I’m seeing indicate the leadership actually cares about trans people rather than hates them, especially since I see a lot of very outwardly trans people hang regularly in the community, notably, VERY active community members and contributors/donators. Framework supporting far-right racists? - #367 by Senhara
I completely understand the initial panic over this but this seems like a big nothing burger. If the framework twitter stops shilling omarchy that will be a good enough apology for me.
Good to know, Before this thread I had never heard of the issues with DHH or Hyprland which is likely a large factor in why I care quite a but less about this than other people in this thread. After doing some research on DHH, I also appear to be the type of person he would rather have gone. Even though I don’t agree with DHH in the slightest I can still admit that he is a talented developer and I do think that the OSS community should try to benefit from his involvement as much as we can, I have never seen anything as comprehensive as omarchy, and It is likely something that I will end up using in the future.
As for Hyprland, I have personally used Hyprland and I really like it. I have seen other posts in this thread talking about how the Hyprland community has gotten a lot better recently but afik the lead dev varaxy is still a problem. I personally don’t have an issue with Framework supporting Hyprland because I like and use the software and having frameworks support means that it will continue to improve
One last thing,
I still do not get why people think this way, It doesn’t have to be political. People just need to be mature enough to work with people that they disagree with.
Lastly, I said this in an earlier post but I think its relevant here as well, The OSS community is small and niche, any support from any company helps we shouldn’t care who the support goes through as long as it ends up benefiting the OSS community.
The contrast between the two is so wide, Musk funds fascism while Framework at worst only gave a few laptops and a desktop to DHH (a fascist) for the specific reason of making sure their hardware runs well on DHH’s OSS project Omarchy which they also promoted. There’s no comparison between the two.
Reading the blog post where DHH calls for the mass deportation of people from the UK because they aren’t white and comcluding “they’re totally fine just because they haven’t been prosecuted for a crime yet” feels bad faith
Yes, I agree, but there’s another difference: it’s really hard for us to stop Musk funding fascism. With Framework, we can make a difference by voting with our wallets and letting the free market do its job
And this also sends a great signal to the rest of the community: difference of opinion is fine, as long as we respect each other’s basic human rights.
For crying out loud, most people visit and post on the forum only when they have technical issues. If anything, it should be a good sign, because it means the defect rate of the devices is low.
It would not be a bad idea to implement something like a week long waiting period after registration before one could post. The noise level here is ridiculous, and no one is convincing anyone else. It’s just a useless series of back-and-forth that is going nowhere.