no its 4 silly musk defender
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if you cant do that you obviously dont know what a nazi is.
Back to school with you
Thereās a reason itās a reply to your post my guy.
I donāt support Elon as much as many Left wing people, and communists, anyways.
Clear lack of understanding of the point.
I think I have a much better idea of what a Nazi is than you.
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Hahaha yeah right
the classic āno youā
Personally, Iām not terribly convinced about the new AMD Ryzen AI laptops, better CPU but worse GPU. Plus with the soldered-on RAM on the desktop as well as not offering driver boards for monitors is more worthy of criticism than funding a project someone decided was problematic (having a bad opinion about one topic).
How many people here owns a framework device?
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I own a 13 and a 16, tempted by the desktop, but the lack of ability to add a GPU, makes me less tempted.
Iād consider getting one but then I think Iād rather wait and see what the Steam Frame, and Valve Fremont will look like.
I donāt plan to upgrade the 13 until thereās a huge leap, mostly in heat and power consumption.
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OFC, loads of Left wing people have Twitter Blue, actively paying Elon, I give Elon none of my money.
I donāt listen to anything he says.
I donāt own any car.
Iām sure plenty of German lefties are paying for twitter blue, which is far more support than Iām giving.
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source? like a not madeup one?
i know noone i germany that uses twittter at all, at least in the north-german space
Wow!
Volksverp? How about that for a leftie?
Omas gegenā¦ also paying for Premium.
A lot of users from Berlin and Frankfurt I personally know, many of the left mindset.
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Source for what?
For 1 person who is verifiably left wing and has twitter blue?
If youāre asking for specifically German, IDK why, youāre clearly missing the āIām sureā to move the goal post.
Point is, Left wing and communists pay for Twitter blue, and that is giving Elon support, way more than I ever have.
A couple of comments here suggested that Omarchyās got good traction and is pulling people into FOSS, and maybe thatās why Frameworkās tactically associating themselves. Regardless of whether thatās a good idea, it made me curious because I honestly hadnāt heard much about Omarchy since its announcement, and even then it only sprung up as this new thing DHH is doing.
So I dug a bit:
I go to Distrowatch for hot takes on new distros. Omarchy is recent, so no surprise it only shows up in the top lists when you filter to the last 3 months or so, but it is there. At first glance, reviews look like a healthy mix of people with very little Linux experience (wowed by the concept of a keyboard-driven WM) to those with a bit more (āitās just a bunch of dotfilesā), but more interesting are the review dates: thereās a huge block of 10/10 reviews posted on Sept 19 with only a few reviews before or since. Thatās very nearly half the reviews collected on a single date, all glowing. Huh!
Another comment here mentioned that Omarchyās especially appealing to people coming from Mac, so I checked Fediverse since thatās a decent intersection of FOSS and Apple fans that isnāt overrun with bots. There I saw a couple of FOSS influencer/journalist types posting enthusiastic takes early after its announcement, and thenā¦ not much until the recent fracas. People deeply embedded in the Mac and FOSS communities donāt seem to care much about Omarchy. (Things are quite different on Twitter, which is also odd.)
One thing that did jump out in the older Fediverse posts was this link:
Iāve been around a few projects when someone suggested a CoC. Thereās always a couple of dudes who would very vocally rather not, but Iāve never seen a reaction like this. Spot-checking profiles, they arenāt all private and recently created, but thereās enough to raise more suspicion.
It looks a lot like someoneās trying to manipulate opinion on this distro. Someone who really doesnāt like Codes of Conduct! Thatās a whole new (to me) wave of red flags about the project.
Influencers are easy to manipulate and rampant on X & YouTube, but Iām not seeing much traction in grassroots platforms, minus a few transparent attempts at astroturfing. I think Frameworkās being taken for a ride here.
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I feel like the people calling anyone they donāt like a āfar right racistsā may have lost the plot lol
Remember, the second word in FOSS is OPEN, if you donāt like that people you donāt agree with can use it, donāt pub your commits and go buy a mac or something.
Donāt let the door hit you on the way out!
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From DHH himself 
What a delight to see this community recognize the trojan horseshit of the CoC at first sight! I wish I would have had such clarity of foresight back in the day when Rails got suckered into accepting the Contributors Covenant. Weāre going to have exactly none of this nonsense in Omarchy.
Thank you for the research and adding something new. Itās clear to me from reading that thread that the community surrounding the development of Omarchy is kinda toxic. This way of talking about having a CoC is a big red flag. Iāve seen rails CoC and itās not great.
Itās not just DHHās rascism, anti-immigrant stance, islamaphobia or anti-trans stance but the kinds of communities he tends to create.
It gets worse the more we learn.
edit: The Contributorās Covenant is a really good CoC that a lot of tech communities adopt. Iāve built some communities on it.
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Thanks for this clear and sound statement. I myself donāt currently use Omarchy, but it looks interesting and worth supporting. As a long-time customer I would be very sad if Framework caved to the sort of outmoded bullying and lies embodied in the OP.
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Wow.
I wasnāt intending on commenting further, as I thought I had already addressed everything intended in my previous comments, including DHHs blogs and comments themselvesā¦.
Wow though, that one comment chain says more about the community than anything else Iāve pointed to. That is a wild comment chain.
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Omarchy facts:
- Released 3.5 months ago
- 13800 GitHub Stars
- 172 contributors
A pretty large bang in the space.
References:
Like, from what Iām seeing in this link (and DHHās views aside), arguably FW should have seen the controversies already bubbling up inside the Omarchy community and decided to steer far away from promoting/supporting it in any official capacity. I feel like no matter your businessās politics, itās standard practice to do research into whatever youāre supporting to make sure you arenāt bringing things into your community that can cause conflict.
Iāmā¦ not convinced FW bothered to do this, and thatās concerning in its own right.
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What are you talking about here? What controversies?
If there was a place to have a controversy visible, this would have been it. I see unanimity:
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I actually checked Omarchy earlier out of curiosity, and its not bad in my opinion. Its definitely too opinionated for a seasoned Linux user, but thatās why it might be good for beginners (if they do not start to messing with the config files and change things). I did not liked the inclusion of some of bloatware, but for those, who are jumping over from macOS or Windows, yeah, why not. Its curated by DHH and his company, but a step forward would be something that does the similar user experience without bloatware for example. So if somebody does not like the author, you can still use the codebase and modify it for your needs (i.e. add programs that you need). Thatās the user experience, what has been commented by some users in Reddit for example as well.
Again, I donĀ“t have any comments on the possible influencer hype, I actually could care less. If its not anything special, its popularity will fade away soon.
But if someone likes it, and it does generally good things (like guiding more users from Windows/macOS to Linux, as Omarchy promises), thenā¦just like someone commented today - even if the author is inherently bad or toxic, if the code does good things, it shows that the person still has something good left inside the soul. And therefore, it is OK to install, use and recommend it to others.
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