They didn’t glaze him, they glazed one of his (and many other contributors) software projects (that are free from any hate or transphobia) which is fine.
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The world would be a lot more interesting if your choice of laptop had some correlation to whether or not your family gets broken up by far-right extremists. I’m fairly certain however, that you’ll fly under the radar this time.
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It’s not a matter of our familys, but people in general, even if you dont know them. I do not want someone getting hurt down the line if I buy whatsoever. Sadly this is hard enough - up to impossible when it comes to cars for example.
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unfortunately backing someone like vaxry with a documented history of behavior counter to the health of the open source community immediately taints the framework brand, as has the handling of all this. People can use whatever software they like on their own terms, but sponsoring known controversial figures makes it hard to recommend your machines.
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Wow. How about that. After this having already been cleared and covered in multiple posts…
Including just a few posts higher up:
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/1864?u=not_winston_smith
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Wow. How about that. After this having already been cleared and covered in multiple posts…
Including just a few posts higher up:
Okay, so I’ve chatted with some of the admins for Hyprland’s community, they, Vaxry included, have seem to changed pretty positively. Vaxry himself has gotten personally involved in getting rid of transphobic members of the community as of late, which is really good… Overall, I think Hyprland and it’s community has grown recently. Time will tell whether that sticks true, but right now things are pretty positive! I don’t mind Framework financially supporting them now.
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/1864?u=not_winston_smith
How are they a far-right racist?
yes I have read about the improvements in the community, but why, out of the thousands and thousands of projects you could back, would you choose to back one with such a history without at least planning for concerns from the community?
Overall I just hope there is some learning happening here, but it doesn’t feel like that is the case with the public communications from Framework.
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Two things we’ve seen in countless open source projects:
- Appeasing will never be enough for some people
- Making amends will never be sufficient for some people
There will always be another reason to complain, another purity test to fail. Never a second chance to be able to redeem yourself.
I wonder, who are the intolerant?
Isn’t this clearly showing that Framework is correct in wanting a more balanced and inclusive approach?
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Not that I ever wanted to reply again in this thread…
But on some other manners, I looked deeper into Omarchy and specifically the huge bundle of its scripts and such packaging is not a great idea - something can easily go wrong during the setup and that would leave you with a broken system, furthermore all of that sudo usage, curl and bundled 3rd party packages are questionable and before switching to Omarchy, I would try this in virtual machine first and inspect everything carefully what is going on, or just set up similar environment manually instead, on top of Arch with Hyprland. For a beginner (not you actually, but in general), who is jumping from macOS or Windows to Linux, I would just recommend to use a well established distro such as Mint or Ubuntu for that reason alone.
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Please stop propagating the slanders and defamation by people like Drew DeVault (a confirmed lolicon enjoyer and mysoginist who thinks women should be forced to have IUDs until they’re 24), we already went over the allegations against the leadership of the hyprland project and found them to be baseless currently:
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Overall seems reasonable. However, if someone has a position that is objectively fascist or white supremacist, it shouldn’t be beyond the pale to call them a fascist, right? Like, at that point it’s just factual?
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So the companies stance is to defend Nazi ideology. This fully settles my stance on this- I’ll be fully withdrawing my support from Framework, decommissioning my current machine and moving on. I can’t stand by a company that is going to take stances like this, especially with the world in the state that it currently is in. Enjoy the Nazi bar.
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Please quote @catastrophic’s word accurately
Instead of deliberately omit
by […] and claim “companies defend Nazi ideology”.
Do better
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The point of the omission isn’t to make them look worse, but rather to highlight the offending section- and I’m not familiar with Discourses BBCode format.
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My understanding is DHH is a public figure so strong criticisms like “DHH is a fascist” is allowed. Meanwhile, calling other users without proof is not allowed. There were factual Nazis in this forum who said slurs and something like certain groups should go away, these accounts were banned and with comments removed.
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Hard to ignore, from the quote, that two of those are protected (and persecuted) minorities and two are bloodthirsty ideologies (that persecuted those very minorities).
I’m not convinced it was deliberate, but it’s a jarring read to see them listed as like examples.
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It’s done only to limit the repeating pattern of Name calling → response and Name calling without contributing anything more to the topic.
At this point it’s similar to a tactic used to disperse people protesting past the legal timeframe - no matter how valid is your opinion, you are being at best a nuisance to the peaceful people who just want to get work done. Even on this UK is a leading example with their new legislations against repeated offenders of public peace. 
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