Framework XL

As someone with poor eyesight who travels a lot, a light laptop with a large screen is essential (reference point is LG Gram 17 at 1350g). I do not need a powerful CPU (the home + virtual servers are there if needed), so frame.work can simply drop their current 12th-gen motherboard into a bigger casing and screen. A bigger keyboard and bigger battery would be icing on the cake, but not if they would delay introduction. Will be happy to pay a deposit once the specs are fixed!

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Not sure about how to find a bigger panel for the framework but would something like a 3D printed laptop chassis (then you get something like a Thinkpad), then using extenders for the USB-C ports, with one of the ports being USB-C mini-DisplayPort to a daughterboard to a 17" display panel?

For you it would be perfect something like that, but for everyone else doing this would just make them give-up and get some other brand instead of waiting. Thinking from a business perspective, this could be done but only after doing what the everyone wishes.

Maybe we can create a poll for it?

  • 17"
  • 15"
  • 13" (but higher, for improved battery/expansion ports)
  • other (please comment)

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Also I believe it would be smart for framework to evaluate it’s community priorities.

Because we surely are demanding folks. Some want a dedicated GPU, some want other CPU vendors (AMD, or even RISC) and even others want a bigger laptop chassis.

Please, if you have demand for something, don’t just blindly reply with “either Framework creates this or I’m out/mad etc”. This is not helpful.

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15" is a tad small for my taste but honestly im fine with it. 17" would be nice.
13" is a waste of time but it does give me an idea for creating a mini cyber deck using the main board with an even smaller screen for shiggles and fun wearable PC’s.

14" is “business laptop” standard. That’s really what should have been made. 15" is too heavy and more difficult to use on an airplane, 13" is too small screen.

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Note that it is 13.5" 3:2 ratio, which gives a slightly larger area than a 14" widescreen.

Yes but the narrow width aspect of the 13.5" 3:2 does not allow the ability to easily modify any other standard 14" screen either 16:10 or 16:9 so we are stuck with no easily modified options. The resolution also has limitations and the color space is not wide gamut for professionals. In the end I do like the 3:2 but the screen is not ideal. My point would be stick with 16:10 14" laptop and make it thicker for quieter fan, bigger battery, and more ports. wide gamut screen. Then you have a working laptop that would appeal to more people with less objections. Ultimately Framework needs to have at least 2 or maybe as many as 3 screen sizes to fit everyone’s needs. Different cases and same insides mostly. Personally my work has software that requires only 100% scaling (or 200%) and it’s too small on the framework’s 13.5" screen due to the high resolution. A 14" in either 16:10 or 16:9 is just fine.

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I’m really not sure how much sense it would make for Framework to create a 14" laptop when they already have a 13.5" one…
(Narrator: It doesn’t)

Are you trying to tell me that 0.5" would justify the hassle of completely redesigning the laptop, creating new parts for it, source the materials, write firmware for it, add a ton of new possible ways to break your laptop and need guidance because someone is missing just a few pixels on their screen?

The format is unlikely, that’s true. But I don’t think it makes sense for Framework to come out with a 14" version before they have a 15" and maybe a 17" one.

Last but not least, we also have the ability to upgrade our displays later with optional addons later on.

LOL, “write firmware for it” & “add a ton of new possible ways to break your laptop”
Yes they are highly unlikely to build a new 14" laptop, nor did I suggest they do that. Rather I said a 14" is what they should have built, and one with more usability (bigger battery, more ports, better screen). Having multiple screen size offerings would be a great way to satisfy more customers.

I looked at a 16" 16:10 2560x1600 (2.5k?) Lenovo laptop at Microcenter the other day. I feel that’s the perfect size and res for a larger screen IMO. It’s basically the same size as a 15" class.

I would order a framework if that was an option. Working on multiple blueprints and word/excel docs on the go is too painful on a 14" or smaller. My work laptop is 14" as it’s the standard company issue and I hate it.

Personally I would prefer 15", but screen size is not critical for me. I could work with the current 13.5" if it comes down to it, and I would also be happy with 17" if the other features require it. But what I really would like to see is a dedicated GPU, more module slots and a full sized keyboard. Or at least one with a numpad.

16" or 17" would be perfect. I do understand some like the 15" but I feel that for a big laptop atleast 16" is a requirement.