I got a Framework laptop to use along side a drawing tablet. I am having issues with the display on my drawing tablet not receiving signal from the laptop. The USB connection is working as the stylus is being tracked, but the display does not receive any signal. I have tried multiple OS and multiple other devices and the only combination where the display doesn’t work is when i hook the PD1161 up to the FW13. I am wondering if anyone else has seen this issue, or something similar?
OS: Ubuntu latest, Windows 10 latest
Framework Laptop 13 DIY Edition (13th Gen Intel® Core™)
HDMI 3rd Gen
Displayport 2nd Gen (Doesn’t work with any display I have)
I have reached out to the support team and they have directed me here, as they have said they do not support troubleshooting 3rd party devices.
when you test the displayport expansion card, are you testing it with displayport to hdmi adapters/cables? because of how the displayport expansion card works and how displayport to hdmi adapters typically work, this combination wont work (specifically the displayport expansion card uses the displayport alt mode of usb type c, which does not embed a hdmi signal that can be passively recovered by basically every displayport to hdmi adapter ever, unlike a desktop gpu which will embed this hdmi signal).
Yes I am using a display port to hdmi converter cable. It is made by INSIGNIA.
So if I am understanding your comment correctly using a Display port expansion card will not work since my drawing tablet uses an HDMI connection, and a converter cable does not allow for the display to be recovered. Is there a solution where I can actively recover the HDMI signal?
active converters do exist but they are hard to track down.
best option is probably to find a usb type c to hdmi adapter (or the official hdmi expansion card) and use that (these have active converters built in by necessity)
@CauseOfBSOD
I originally was using the HDMI expansion card, but that is not displaying anything.
@parawizard
The tablet display is being detected by the operating system (Ubuntu 24.04), but the display signal is not going to the tablet. The tablet reads NO SIGNAL → POWER SAVING, and then goes black. I ran the command xrandr and it is showing two displays when the drawing tablet is connected as well as when the tablet is disconnected (even after a reboot).
I have the latest firmware updates and drivers for both tablet and framework laptop.
Setups I have tested where the tablet display is working Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga gen 1 running windows 10 - working Desktop with Nvdia 2040 running ubuntu 24.04 - working Desktop with Nvdia 3060 running windows 10 -> working
I am literally at my wits end from the hardware side as to why the tablet display is not recieving any signal. It works on so many other setups.
So did you try the different tablet modelines/resolutions/refresh rates you saw in xrandr? Do they all work on the Lenovo? Is it the same list on both devices? Have you confirmed other monitors work on the framework?
I did try different resolutions and refresh rates. I did not set them through xrandx as I am not the best with the terminal. I am also not sure why a second monitor is being registered when the tablet is not connected. I feel that is part of the issue, but not entirely sure.
I have tried other monitors and they seem to work just fine with the framework laptop.
I am indeed using the cable that came with the drawing tablet. It is using the custom connection cable that combines display/power/input. I can’t really try this cable with a different monitor since it is a special cable as you have observed. I have tried a different cable as my friend with the lenovo has the same tablet, but we did not see any difference in behavior.
I have tried power it on and off again in many different ways, and it does not seem to be helping at all.
Can you use 3 in 1 cable for power only and use a separate hdmi cable to see if the display works? Im guessing they are injecting power into the usb-c port on the tablet.
Unfortunately the mini hdmi connection on the pd1161 would require me to destroy a cable to get it to fit. I do not believe the hdmi cable is the problem since it works on many other devices, but I am curious if there is something else you were expecting to test.
As for the logs when connecting the tablet to the framework laptop I get the following output. I did not connect the USB connection, so I am not sure what the logs are saying.
Sep 15 12:42:55 PainStation kernel: input: HUION 256C PEN STYLUS as /devices/virtual/input/input26
Sep 15 12:43:56 PainStation kernel: usb 3-2: USB disconnect, device number 2
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: Registered IR keymap rc-cec
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: rc rc0: DP-1 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/rc/rc0
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: input: DP-1 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/rc/rc0/input27
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: usb 3-2: new full-speed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=32ac, idProduct=0002, bcdDevice= 0.00
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: usb 3-2: Product: HDMI Expansion Card
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Framework
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: usb 3-2: SerialNumber: 11AD1D009CC7401838300B00
Sep 15 12:43:58 PainStation kernel: hid-generic 0003:32AC:0002.0006: hiddev0,hidraw2: USB HID v1.11 Device [Framework HDMI Expansion Card] on usb-0000:00:14.0-2/input1
Sep 15 12:43:59 PainStation kernel: input: HUION 256C PEN STYLUS as /devices/virtual/input/input28
Sep 15 12:43:59 PainStation kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] Selective fetch area calculation failed in pipe A
Sep 15 12:44:00 PainStation kernel: input: HUION 256C PEN STYLUS as /devices/virtual/input/input29
Sep 15 12:44:06 PainStation kernel: usb usb2-port1: attempt power cycle
Sep 15 12:44:15 PainStation kernel: usb usb2-port1: unable to enumerate USB device
Proprietary connector on the PD1161 side eh. Do you have another device that supports display on the usb-c port that you can plug the framework HDMI expansion module into and see if it works with the tablet?
Obviously one of the devices in this equation is doing something weird. I don’t feel like we can say which yet. Do you have another usb-c hub with hdmi out by chance that you could try?
honestly not sure why the hdmi expansion card wouldnt work
ive heard of issues with the displayport expansion cards and displayport devices (specifically vr headsets like the vive pro) that went away with other usb type c to displayport adapters. maybe something similar could happen with the hdmi expansion card? im otherwise out of ideas.
So the only other usb-c display adapter connection I have is on my steam deck, and I atleast get flickering static when I connect to the HDMI port through the steam deck dock. I don’t have any of the tablets drivers on my deck, and I doubt the steam deck is meant to support this kind of thing. When I tried using the framework HDMI adapter with the steam deck dock I got the normal black screen I have been experiencing. It makes me think the USB-c converter is what is causing the problem.
