Game: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
Publisher: EA
FPS: N/A
Settings: Low
Resolution: 1280x720p
Framework Specs: i5-1135g7, 16GB Crucial 3200
Notes: Crashes upon Startup
Also, I have to eat some crow: Uncharted’s issues WERE in fact with the Intel GPU, as trying it out with a different GPU let me get past Chapter 2 so…
Yeah, the Intel iGPU is good for some things, but I’m REALLY looking forward to the AMD mainboard when it releases…
wow, didnt expect people to still be here lol. i havent really done much gaming on my framework, never really had the performance i wanted (but thats ok).
im thinking of getting the R7 + 780m mainboard eventually. would be very nice to test its gaming preformance as the 780m is supposedly able to outperform a gtx1650, and the 7840u looks like its going to be MORE powerful then my desktop cpu (3700x).
obviously this isnt a gaming laptop, and even gaming laptops can be hard to compare to desktops. even if this new ryzen IS faster on paper, im not sure if it can actually beat the real world preformance of an overclocked water cooled desktop cpu.
regardless, should be very fun to see. with all the new boards and the 16 inch on the horizon, maybe this thread will be more interesting!
i7 - 1165G7 + 16GB dual-channel, Win 11
The Ascent
Additional Notes: Appears to be an issue with the iGPU/Driver, but may need to cycle through a few resolutions on game startup to remove a very intense bloom effect that washes everything out. 1400x1050 leaves everything in a visible state on the screen, and stretches well to fill most of the screen. Overall a pretty playable experience.
non-related thoughts. With a recent increase in the use of this platform for light gaming on the go, I will probably be picking up one of the AMD boards to replace my 11th gen.
Any AMD Benchmarks?
I was wondering the same, I’ve seen some videos crop up putting the R5 v the R7 but in one of those handheld form factors (GDP Win) The FPS difference between the two seemed very close, and at an assumed jump for the hardware over my 11th now just looking around to see if the R7 makes sense over the R5. Hoping that some of the AMD board owners in the wild could get some gaming benchmarks up for comparison between the two.
The price difference is pretty significant if all it buys is an average of say 5FPS, especially so if like myself you’re gonna get a large uplift anyway over the 11th gen. Given the form factors in the reviews I have seen, It could also be something like the R7 is just hitting thermal limits, when it is is these smaller configs, and how does that translate to a larger form factor like the 13…
The comparison Benchmarks I’ve seen floating around:
TLDR; AWD 13 owners, please break the silence!
Here’s some anecdata!
Game: Halo Infinite
FPS: 60,
Settings: all low, with dynamic resolution
Resolution: 3440x1440
Framework Specs: AMD 7840U, 2x32GB @ 5600MT/s
Notes: Fedora and Windows
Game: Ghostrunner 1 full play through (tried a little bit of Ghostrunner 2, seemed similar)
FPS: ~40 low, average around 60FPS,
Settings: IIRC medium?, with AMD FSR
Resolution: 3440x1440
Framework Specs: AMD 7840U, 2x32GB @ 5600MT/s
Notes: I played through the entire game on Fedora/Sway. If I changed the graphics to low, I’d get ~70-90 FPS.
Game: Switch emulation on Yuzu and Ryujinx (Zelda BoTW and Super Smash Bros Ultimate)
FPS: 30 (I haven’t tried 60FPS mods)
Settings: -
Resolution: -
Framework Specs: AMD 7840U, 2x32GB @ 5600MT/s
Notes: Fedora. No frame dips on Yuzu (some on Ryujinx).
Most if not all games are playable imo, where as before on my i7-1165G7 iGPU they were not.
More details below:
Performance was similar on both Fedora and Windows. It looks like it may be possible to squeeze out more performance, but I’m over the moon with how an “ultraportable” like this performs (reminds me of my old Alienware m11x, but vastly better in every way except no RGB 
), especially since these games wouldn’t really be playable on my Framework 11th gen i7-1165G7 Intel Xe. I think I could play basically any game with the AMD 7840U decently on the go. Though now it also gseems possible with the Intel 14th gen/Meteor Lake iGPU!
I don’t really game much nowadays and am comparing with my dying decade old overclocked Intel i5-2500K/Nvidia GTX 970.
Heck, Halo Infinite was running better on my 7840U than on that. Granted, it wasn’t optimized and had issues on on the 970 around the November 2021 release date, and I think the i5-2500K was the bottleneck. The 7840U CPU is way faster.
From what I’ve researched, performance of the 780M is about at the level of GTX 1050 Ti to GTX 1060. Compared to my desktop GTX 970 (with the possibly bottlenecking i5-2500K), IIRC Hitman 2016 at 3440x1440 would get ~60FPS, where as on the AMD 7840U it’d get around 30FPS. However, turning on FSR or the equivalent makes it (and other games) perfectly playable at 60FPS+, imo.
Here’s an excellent thread full of gaming/GPU benchmarks (I was getting similar performance):
Regarding temperatures, per that same thread post:
I took the plunge, and snagged one of the AMD 13 R5 boards, here’s a collection of benchmarks from it.
Framework Specs: AMD 7640U, 2x16GB @ 5600MT/s CL40, Gen4 NVME, v3.03 UEFI.
Notes: Windows 11 Pro X64, Mainline AMD Driver (24.1.1, Hyper-RX Enabled globally) Plugged in (Official 60Watt), Best Performance power mode, iGPU Game mode set in UEFI (Using this mode, some games reported greater than 16GB of VRAM, most reported ~4GB). I expect that like the i7 11th gen that some of these scores would be moderately improved by swapping the paste and pads, due to an issue with one of my ports I am holding off on that at this time to see about getting it replaced. Utilizing the Hyper-RX mode from a high level summary is rendering the game at a set resolution and then scaling it up to the monitor resolution, this makes use of some frame generation technologies, and based on my experience with it thus far, I’d suggest utilizing it for most scenarios.
TLDR; The R5 is a very solid offering for the price point and provides a good increase in the gaming experience over say, the 11th Gen i7. I do not regret my choice. Hopefully we can get some cross talk on some games to determine the spread for the R7 v the R5.
Game: Armored Core VI
Game: Metro Exodus Enhanced
FPS: Native (2256x1504):
FPS: 1920x1080 HIGH
FPS: 1920x1080 LOW; Hyper-RX
Settings: “High”; RTX/DLSS turned off.
Resolution: Native (2256x1504), 1920x1080.
Notes: Built in Benchmark “HIGH”, The benchmark takes a long time to load the first time as it builds a cache. Lots of Texture pop-in for native resolution. As the benchmark is outside of the game, Hyper-RX doesn’t recognize it most runs (It magically saw it on the low run). Suggest running this title with Hyper-RX set to a lower res, and cranking the settings down to low with those items I suspect that a 30-45 FPS average is do-able.
Game: Forza Horizon 4
Game: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim SE
Game: Cyberpunk 2077 V 2.11 (Phantom liberty)
Game: Red Dead Redemption 2
Game: SnowRunner
Game: Grid Autosport
Game: Frost Punk
Game: GhostRunner
Game: Age of Empires II : Definitive Edition
I Re-ran this with a 100W power supply I have on hand as apparently it boosts performance on the R7 model.
It appears that there is the smallest gain, ran this twice and had almost identical results. So, I suspect that ideally all of these scores go up with a beefier supply. I think that the “Final form” here will include thermal interface changes to round things up another few points.
Edit: I replaced the stock TIM with one of those honeywell pads and it decreased the scores in Cyberpunk. Replacing it again with Thermal Grizzly brought me in like with the scores from the non 100 watt supply while on the 100 watt supply. So, it appears that the stock thermal paste is no pushover on the AMD units.
Ptm and liquid metal still perform a lot better but the stock setup is already pretty alright, not sure if you got fake ptm or the install failed somehow but those results make no sense.
Yeah, I’m assuming that the PTM I picked up was not genuine. I didn’t have a problem testing it out even temporarily though as I had some paste on hand otherwise, no harm, no foul.
As for the rest of it, My best guess is that there is some variable in Win11 that I’m not accounting for somewhere. Additional processes in the background, the phase of the moon, something… I’m not used to getting worse results after repasting anything.
Maybe your paste is slightly worse than what was on there already or you got an air bubble or the mounting pressure is slightly off, there are a ton of variables.
Slightly lower benchmark scores with PTM were reported in the past, in the PTM thread. Here’s some discussion of that: [Honeywell PTM7950 Phase Change Thermal Pads/Sheets] Application, Tips, and Results - #104 by Michael_Wu
Not saying that’s what’s happening here, just for reference.
With the ridiculously good results I got I wonder if there is some thing weird going on, is there someone selling regular thermal pads as tpm? It is also somewhat easy to break the stuff while applying, and if you got a hole/bubble with no contact that’s gonna hurt.
Edit: or it could be the stapm weirdness, I did notice during my ptm testing that it can cool more than 30W but after some time stapm clamps down to 30, which is still more than what stock paste can cool but less than what ptm can cool and usually less than it can cool with a temp limit of 80 (the stapm only comes down over 80 it seems). I do wonder how high ptm can go but I only figured out how to deal with the power limits after I switched to lm and I’d rather not change back just to test that now.
Framework Specs: AMD 7640U, 2x16GB @ 5600MT/s CL40, Gen4 NVME, v3.05 UEFI.
Notes: Windows 11 Pro X64, Mainline AMD Driver (24.3.1, Hyper-RX Enabled globally) Plugged in (Official 60Watt), Best Performance power mode, iGPU Game mode set in UEFI
UPDATE: AMD Dropped the 24.4.1 Driver yesterday, and it specifically called out Hell Divers 2 as a performance target. With the same settings I am now bouncing between 42-47 in the tutorial level, bouncing off a max of 58 on the ship and in menus, and the lowest I saw it go was 35. So they’ve done some tweaking in our favor.
Hi again folks! Been a while, but it’s cool to see people still posting on this thread. I’m not sure if anyone has done these games yet, but I figured I may as well post some stuff.
Laptop specs: Ryzen 7 7840u, 2x8Gb ddr5 @4800mhz)
Deep Rock Galactic: ~50fps, medium preset, 1024x768
War Thunder: ~80fps, low preset, 2256x1504
Splitgate: ~90fps, medium preset, 2256x1504
Baulders Gate 3: After a while of playing around with settings and such, I couldnt get the game to run well enough without looking terrible. Probably doable with some optimization, but I decided I would rather just use my desktop so I could properly enjoy the game.
Also feel I should mention DRG wasn’t super consistant with FPS. I plan to test CS2 and TF2 more in depth, so I’ll probably post that soon.
Dx11, or Dx12? Wondering if the RAM is the main culprit here. I would have expected you to get better performance with the 7840 over the 7640 with the better APU/iGPU onboard.
AMD 7640U, 2x16GB @ 5600MT/s CL40, AMD 24.5.1.
Spun it up on this end, 1920x1200 native, Medium settings I bounced between 40 and the 60 (Locked), remaining at 60 more often than not. Seems very workable, could probably get a solid lock on 60 FPS with some tuning.
After playing a bit more, I feel like its actually lower then what I posted above. 40-50 running around, 30 when fighting. DX version didnt seem to change much. Switching from windowed fullscreen to proper fullscreen did. Now getting about the same as what you reported.
Framework Specs: AMD 7640U, 2x16GB @ 5600MT/s CL40, Gen4 NVME, v3.05 UEFI.
Notes: Windows 11 Pro X64, Mainline AMD Driver (24.5.1, Hyper-RX Enabled globally) Plugged in (Official 60Watt), Best Performance power mode, iGPU Game mode set in UEFI
Update: Have a few more hours into this game, a new driver (25.6.1) with a LOT more sprawling, and assets on screen, I am very surprised with the performance. With the same settings, going into phase 4, I have seen a minimum of 40 FPS, a Max of 62, and an average hanging on at about 50. This is still very playable where I expected it to turn into a slideshow.
Very excited to say I ordered a Framework 16! Obviously the 13 inch isnt much of a gaming laptop, but I do think it would be fun to compare the 2 of them. Might throw in my desktop and make it a 3 way race.
11th Gen, Linux. The only games I’ve had issues running are Counter Strike 2 and Dex. In Dex, the issue has to do with using a mouse with high polling rate and DPI, when I don’t move the mouse it’s perfect lol.