I’m late to the party here but I want to step in to correct this misconception.
There are two boxes involved here: Laptops are assembled into SKUs (for DIY edition on 13th gen and newer, that’s based on CPU, 12th gen and earlier its CPU and Keyboard) at the factory and then sealed into inner boxes and sent to the 3PL partner, who packs the inner laptop box into an outer box.
Some components, like the ones you listed, can be customized without introducing additional SKUs because they can be added separately into the outer box. However, the battery must come pre-installed because shipping restrictions on Lithium Ion batteries are a lot more difficult (and expensive) to deal with if they are not installed in devices.
If they made it possible to select the battery, they would need to double the number of laptop SKUs, which is not feasible for a company with less than 50 employees globally.
A version that’s more like a hybrid laptop/tablet. I’d seriously like one of these with Framework’s design philosophy of being able to upgrade everything and anything.
Thanks for the clarification! Makes perfect sense.
Would it be reasonable to expect that all framework laptops in the near future will be available with the 61wh battery, as soon as that battery is available? Or not for >1year?
well if you really wanna know it’s because Switzerland still can’t order them. I could order to Germany and get it like that but that would be against ToS or something idk. ill just wait for the 16" after all the Swiss keyboard layout was (finally) made. i just hope that the region releases with the 16" and not another few quarters after -_-
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If it continues to come up in this thread, I will unfortunately have to close it, which I would really prefer not to do because there is some really amazing feedback that comes up here. Thank you.
I have ordered one anyway.
It’s a gamble whether or not they will eventually sell the 61wh battery with the base model at all.
And to be honest; can’t wait
I currently own a Lenovo ThinkPad and have managed to upgrade the RAM and the OS and can still upgrade the storage by adding an M.2 drive. I want to get as many years out of my ThinkPad as I can before I invest in a new laptop. Even then, I’m not sure I’ll part ways with my ThinkPad when I get a new laptop. I have high hopes for the Framework 16 laptop but I’m still in a wait and see mode when it comes to my buying one. Part of the reason has to do with the fact that I’m moving and getting ready to go back for my bachelors degree in cybersecurity.
I’m considering buying one part at a time and building a FW16 when I can afford to do so. Only time will tell if I can pull that off. That said, greater customization options for the case would be an awesome idea. Particularly if I can get a black case with a backlit Framework logo. That may be a DIY project I’ll want to look into.
The battery is not yet an option, but may be eventually. The matte screen is the default now, which is why there is no configuration option. If you order a 13th gen Intel or AMD 13" right now, you will get a matte display.
Thank you @BigT good to know that matte is now the default, I believe that should be mentioned on the config page. Hopefully the battery becomes an option soon.
I just put in a pre-order yesterday evening! Initially what was holding me back from framework specifically was lack of a dedicated GPU. Then when I found out about the Framework 16 and the optional 7700S module, my stupid brain wanted to wait for all the options to make it to the table. In the meantime as I procrastinated wating for other manufacturers to get their shi… act together, all the first batches sold out so now I’m waiting until Q1 next year.
Here’s the thing, yes I probably could have continued waiting, and in Nov or Dec finally snagged a nice thin-n-light with comparable - or even better - specs for the same price or cheaper. However, chances are it would have to be something like an Asus ROG and that company has done some awful things in the PC space recently. Or maybe I could have snagged a next gen Lenovo, and then had to deal with setting it up and hoping that Linux drivers will work with whatever proprietary weirdness they have. And both of those options are even assuming I can get my hands on one with AMD/Radeon, because I am not going back to fighting Nvidia drivers on my laptop ever again.
Framework was just the right choice and I should have pulled the trigger sooner
Try taking a customer perspective instead of a developer perspective. As a customer you want to know what you are buying. You don’t want to search forums to find basic information about the product you are purchasing, and you can’t be expected to know the “defaults”.
so now I’m waiting until Q1 next year.