Oh. So that ebook reader that I bought 5 years ago in Switzerland was illegal? I paid Swiss VAT for it but it was still illegal? They delivered it to the local address and I can’t go there anymore. And I didn’t use a Swiss banking card.
Also what should I do if I simply rent a flat in Germany and then move into another place? Do I lose warranty if I can’t receive parcels into a place I lived 1 year ago? Something is not right with your version.
Does it mean that if I sell a house in Germany and move to… UK… does it mean that I lose all warranties that are attached to my goods?
@Martynas What you aren’t understanding is that Framework is a US company, it has different rules. This forum as seen some variation of “but EU and common market!” many times. It is different for Framework. Accept that please and drop the subject. If you have a relative in a supported country then they can purchase the laptop and give it to you with the understanding that any support will have to go through them. That’s it, end of story, nothing else to say.
And we do know. We have seen this time and time again and seen the same responses from support time and time again.
Lack of a touchscreen was holding us back before but not anymore. We can wait until one is released as an upgrade or swap. We haven’t ordered because preorders aren’t open for the 16" yet, and we don’t know the actual specs available or expected performance.
Our desktop is a 9700k and original 2080, and we’re hoping we can smash that. The 7840HS benchmarks crush the 9700k (genuinely between 30% and 70% more performance) and the 7840U isn’t too far behind for the most part. Hopefully there’s a GPU option with a lot of VRAM and encode/decode power. Would be nice to have an option to really throttle everything and sip power when we want to unplug.
I am once again on this list of “Not ordered yet” because I’m waiting for reviews of the AMD motherboard before ordering. Could use an upgrade simply so that stuff compiles faster. If those turn out fine in terms of performance and battery life (ideally with performance comparisons to the first iteration Framework so I can have an idea of the performance changes) I’m pretty much immediately ordering a kit.
You will likely be waiting a long time then. Framework has not announced plans to sell the Ryzen 5 boards with the larger battery (likely to keep the number of different SKUs low. Instead the solution will be to get the laptop with the 55Wh battery and the 61Wh upgrade from the marketplace.
I don’t think so.
And I’m not ordering a laptop with a too-small battery and then replace it right away.
That defeats the purpose of a modular configurable laptop that limits environmental impact.
On top of that, the 55wh battery is most likely disappearing anyway.
The price difference is about 20usd, and once they switch fully to 61wh the price for them will go down.
Every box is made to order already (with your specific io modules, bezel, keyboard, …), so the battery does not matter.
So unfortunately for now I will have to wait. But that’s okay.
My 2012 macbook air still works fine for light office work
Addition: I found an additional reason not to buy now.
I could buy the laptop now with the 55wh battery, and buy a 61wh in a few months.
But the shipping costs of the battery alone, are 30 euro’s. That’s massive and unreasonable.
Of course valid to wait, but I wouldn’t place my bets on the Ryzen 5 ever receiving the 61wH battery.
In my personal opinion, the 6wH gain isn’t worth worrying over, but of course your opinion as also a valid stance.
Another way you might be able to justify buying the 61wH seperately though is keeping a battery in reserve to swap out the other one in the distant future
Fair enough. But the new battery would cost 79euro incl vat, plus 30 in shipping.
That is ridiculous to be honest.
I will wait until I can order it with the new laptop.
I’m late to the party here but I want to step in to correct this misconception.
There are two boxes involved here: Laptops are assembled into SKUs (for DIY edition on 13th gen and newer, that’s based on CPU, 12th gen and earlier its CPU and Keyboard) at the factory and then sealed into inner boxes and sent to the 3PL partner, who packs the inner laptop box into an outer box.
Some components, like the ones you listed, can be customized without introducing additional SKUs because they can be added separately into the outer box. However, the battery must come pre-installed because shipping restrictions on Lithium Ion batteries are a lot more difficult (and expensive) to deal with if they are not installed in devices.
If they made it possible to select the battery, they would need to double the number of laptop SKUs, which is not feasible for a company with less than 50 employees globally.
A version that’s more like a hybrid laptop/tablet. I’d seriously like one of these with Framework’s design philosophy of being able to upgrade everything and anything.
Thanks for the clarification! Makes perfect sense.
Would it be reasonable to expect that all framework laptops in the near future will be available with the 61wh battery, as soon as that battery is available? Or not for >1year?
well if you really wanna know it’s because Switzerland still can’t order them. I could order to Germany and get it like that but that would be against ToS or something idk. ill just wait for the 16" after all the Swiss keyboard layout was (finally) made. i just hope that the region releases with the 16" and not another few quarters after -_-
Please note that Framework does not support freight forwarding to unsupported countries as they do not have the authority to sell or ship their products to any countries/regions outside of their officially supported country/region list located here: What countries and regions do you ship to?. If individuals proceed by entering invalid/incorrect billing information, their order will be subject to cancellation/refund, and their payment method may be subject to blacklist. If the order does proceed, they are acknowledging that Framework is not responsible for anything that may happen as a result of not utilizing Framework’s direct shipping to a supported country/region, and that they are fully accountable for any additional costs incurred, or documentation required. Additional information can be found in the Framework Terms of Sale and the Framework Limited Warranty documentation.
If it continues to come up in this thread, I will unfortunately have to close it, which I would really prefer not to do because there is some really amazing feedback that comes up here. Thank you.
Something is not right with your version.