Yeah I understand, I just only now recognized I missed a joke ^^;
We should probably get back on topic
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No, I mean my reply was a joke in that all of the points I made were completely nonsensical and physically impossible. It was in reply to a comment that following all the suggestions in the forum would result in The Homer - such as a thin & light 17" laptop with a DGPU and a soldering kit to remove LPDDR chips.
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2 things:
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Battery life!
From what Iāve read and heard from several sources (reddit, forums, youtube, ā¦) itās not that good.
For the i7-1280P I would expect at least 3-4h under heavy load (= 2-3 VMs running + MS Office stuff), but everything Iāve found tells me I could be lucky if I get 3h under heavy load. -
If I need new/spare parts ā¦ ā¬ 30,-- for shipping???
This is really insane, for some parts this would mean 50% of the cost of an order is shipping only ā¦
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Tbf, Framework is still small, I expect as they scale up they will be able to negotiate volume discounts with couriers as Amazon and others do. Those companies eat the cost and Framework canāt
I know, but ā¬ 30,ā still looks a bit high to me. Especially if I look at the extension cards, some are ā¬ 10,ā, if I only need one more ā¦
ā¬ 10,ā to ā¬ 15,ā would be something I could live with for small parts.
ā¬ 30,ā for parts like the display or the mainboard is fine, because those parts need a better packaging and they are bigger.
So let me be more specific, ā¬ 30,ā for shipping small parts is expensive in my mind.
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Maybe we should not take cheap shipping for granted. Itās not shipped only across the street. It is shipped from Taiwan.
Either a company can reduce shipping costs by excessive amounts or it just hides the cost in product price.
To be honest I do not understand why so many things must be cheap these days.
With this mindset there wonāt be much sustainability. I think the more expensive something is you more value it. The more you value something the more youāre eager to repair and care for.
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Well, if I donāt really really really need it I will not order a part for a few ā¬uros and pay three times the amount for shipping.
This is a stopper for me, because it doesnāt matter if you pay 40ā¬ for a tiny part or 10ā¬ plus 30ā¬ for shipping. Itās the same, too much for such a small simple electronic part. Then it doesnāt really matter how easy it is to repair or swap parts.
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One card module weighs 43grams in the postage wrap.
I feel your pain. I originally pre-ordered the 1260P but got COVID (for the second time 
) and had to cancel. Finally scraped enough cash together to afford the refurbed i5 model. Not what I wanted but at least I have my foot in the door and I can upgrade boards later when I have the cash. Iāll probably just wait for Meteor Lake or Arrow Lake to bring improvements to iGPU. Being a broke student sucks when you have expensive tastes 
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13.5" is too small for me. It would be good to know if bigger displays are on the horizon. I havenāt found anything indicating that it is coming.
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No touchscreen and 360 hinge, and preferably would also need stylus support. I like taking notes with a stylus and I dont wanna get a tablet. If those were options, it wud be an instant buy.
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I was waiting until the FW came to my country but now Iāve had a lot of time to think about it and Iām just gonna hold out until a touchscreen variant arrives. Iāve been trying to get used to not having a TS by using my momās macbook but I keep touching the screen instinctively. Honestly didnāt know it was such a deal breaker until I really thought about it.
Also welcome to the community @zoog & @Kunal_Jain! 
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I too was waiting for it to become available in my country. I love the idea and would have bought it even though I prefer 15". I kept my old laptop alive for as long as I could, but the wait has been too long for my old battery.
So I guess Iāll be buying a laptop real soon. It just wonāt be a Framework.
Awaiting an off-the-peg unorthodox keyboard module. I would prefer the Atreus but any ortholinear, columnar staggered or other ergonomic design being available commercially would demonstrate any latent demand for alternative formats that might lead to bigger things.
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TL,DR: 15" screen
Iām looking to buy a new laptop very soon - but my hand gets squished on small form factors. So I wonāt buy the framework until it comes with a bigger screen.
15" is preferable, but I could do 14-16" if that was what was left. 13.5" is just too small.
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Three things hold me back now.
Iād love a ryzen based version as multithreaded performance is more valuable to me day to day for the work I do. A hybrid archetecture would likely decrease my performance. AMD also tends to keep their chips cooler, but thatās not much of a concern for me.
I need at least a 15.6" screen, but 17.3" would be preferrable.
I need a numpad. I practically live off them for my CAD work.
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I am still waiting for PayPal or Klarna as payment methods in Germany.
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Holding me back:
-DDR5 RAM
-Non-Glossy Screen
-Touchscreen
-13/14th gen i7s - I got interested in Framework mid-cycle and want the latest
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Started looking deeper into this after my trusty XPS 13 7390 2-in-1 (4k OLED, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD) left fan failed, and itās somewhat of a struggle to get parts quickly for it. Shipping from China takes forever.
Made me realize all this āsoldered on-boardā can be a business risk.
But whatās holding me back
- I found spare cooling system parts for XPS 13, so itās likely I can fix it.
- no OLED screen option (touch not necessary, for me) - once you go OLED, you donāt go back
- no āinfinity edgeā screen bezel option (even for IPS) - canāt look at large bottom bezels anymore
- Linux suspend power draw issues I still see being actively tracked
- some reviews say fans have only āoff, or loudā mode - scared of getting āloudā too often
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First time poster, long time lurker becauseā¦I just donāt need a new laptop right now. As soon as I do thoughā¦
That said, I could be easily convinced if they offer a touch screen. That is the one feature I donāt enjoy the privilege of anywhere in my fleet of personal computers. Meanwhile, I refurbish PCās for charity and every time I do a touchscreen laptop I get sooo jealous!
Throw in an AMD APU and Iād even preorder.
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