Intel wifi 7

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Does anyone happen to know if this can be switched to an Intel wifi 7 card like the BE200NGW?

Getting bridging to work with the included one in hyper v is a pain with a decent hit to throughput.

Had the issue on the 16 and I had put a Intel 6 card in it fixed the problem.

Wondering if I can do the dns thing here.

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That will not work. these new Wifi 7 chips needs support Intel CPUs, thats the reason why you see Mediatek on all new AMD devices that provides Wifi 7.

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Thats a bummer.

My 16 came with a mediatek one and swapped for the 6e one was hopping the new one would work. Might need to use the same card instead of going 7 then.

Good to know.

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It doesn’t really need intel cpus as much as it just doesn’t play nice with some amd platforms. The be200 runs on ancient intel and amd platforms as well as the raspberry pi just fine.

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Hello,

I see that the “AMD RZ717 Wi-Fi 7” Wi-Fi module is only available for AMD, but nothing is available on store for Intel (I have the Laptop 13 DIY Edition Framework (11th Gen Intel® Core™)).

And on Amazon, I confess I don’t understand: all these Wi-Fi cards have the genuine Intel BE200NGW chip, but the manufacturer is some random, anonymous Chinese company.
How much trust can I place in these Wi-Fi cards? Do they have specific modifications?

And most importantly, will they ultimately be compatible with my Laptop 13, 11th Gen?

Thanks in advance

Best regards

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Amazon has been overrun with lookalikes and knockoffs for years. The bigger the name product–the more likely it is. The old AX200 chip had a panoply of Amazon no-name Chinese listings too.

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That most likely won’t work as in pretty sure it needs to be 12th Gen or higher due to the implementation with cnvio.

I would look at Qualcomm fast connect 7800.

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If you do get a genuine be200 it should work in the intel framework (just make sure you are actually getting one ending in 0, the ones ending in anything else won’t work).

If you want to be pretty sure you get a real one and don’t want to trust amazon you can get them off vendors like mouser or digikey where you can be pretty sure they are real.

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Thanks all for pointing me in the right direction.

From what I understand:
The CNVi (Intel Connectivity Integration) protocol externalizes the MAC (logic) part to the Intel CPU, leaving only the PHY (radio) part on the M.2 card.
Intel CNVi cards (like the Intel AX201, AX211, or the new Intel BE201 with Wi-Fi 7) require a recent Intel CPU (often 12th generation or higher for the latest revisions like the CNVio2).

Furthermore, Intel intentionally restricts AP mode.

Meanwhile, MediaTek (MT7921, MT7922, MT7925) and Qualcomm (NCM865 / FastConnect 7800) chipsets do not use the proprietary Intel CNVi protocol. These are completely self-contained chips and offer many virtual interfaces (#{AP} <= 4 or #{AP} <= 8).

Furthermore, MediaTek doesn’t manufacture the final PCB (the green or black M.2 card); they only sell the die (the square silicon processor under the metal casing). Therefore, all M.2 cards on the market are assembled by third parties. The risk doesn’t seem to be chip counterfeiting, but rather poor quality electromagnetic shielding or IPEX4 (MHF4) antenna connectors.

I just found this model “EDUP Carte WiFi 7 BE6500 M.2 2230 pour PC Portable, Tri-Band 802.11be 6GHz/5GHz/2.4GHz, Bluetooth 5.4, Jusqu’à 6,5 Gbit/s, OFDMA, Compatible Intel & AMD, Windows 11 (64-bit) et Linux Kernel 6.7+” (with mt76 module); I’ll test it and let you know!

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As do the non cnvio intel cards like the ax200, ax210 and the be200 (if it wasn’t bugged).

While they may not manufacture the cars they certainly provide a reference design so I doubt there is a huge difference between different cards. The weak-point on the mediatek side isn’t the hardware but the software (be that drivers or firmware).