@Ross said: “As a linux person I wish Framework offered a keyboard without the lame windows logo on the Super button
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I guess it wouldn’t hurt to print their own Framework symbol instead of the Windows symbol in the keyboard. I would say it is something to consider (and quite simple to change - for future iterations of the keyboard only).
What we don’t know is if somebody associated with the company can confirm or deny IF this possibility is concrete or not.
@rn1234 said: “Intel sucks at graphics and battery life
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Come on… It’s not quite like that… You’re being too strict… RDN2 is indeed much better than Iris Xe, but the later is no slouch either… In terms of battery life, 11th gen Intel is really awesome (on the U series) and 12th gen has still the need to prove itself, but with more optimizations on Win11 and Linux, it is not hard to say that it will probably get there. Besides that, in terms of market, AMD 6000 U series is so rare, almost impossible to get. The only thing lacking on 11th gen Intel was multicore performance; and 12th gen is coming through to remedy exactly that.
@GhostLegion “…until Framework gets bigger, there will always be a delay between the bigger players and Framework.
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Very wise words. I fully agree with you. It is hard to contain our expectations sometimes, but in the specific case of Framework, it is the right thing to do… and, so far, they have delivered big time. I think we can expect them to continue on this path; patience is the name of the game here.
@A_Fan said: “Just saw a review from Dave2D on the new Asus Flow X16...
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Well, I don’t want to be too harsh here (sorry), but in all honesty, if any of us are willing to "jump category" there is really a myriad of options out there.
What Framework offers that is quite Unique is really what’s hard (almost impossible) to find on other laptops:
- some of the best quality reliable components on “thin and light” laptops available on the market;
- simple (and relatively affordable) upgrade path;
- easily available and very reasonably priced spare parts for ALL components;
- concrete and simple possibility of reuse of old MB/Processor combo;
What we expect in this new 12th gen. Intel P series is that besides all that, it now will also offer:
- a very very good performance (multicore, on heavy loads)
Just as an example, Asus G14 is one of the best machines I ever seen, but it does not give you many of the things on the list up there and it comes with a horrible MediaTek WiFi card, soldered RAM on one slot (not upgradable or even exchangeable if it gets some defect), no choice of storage size, brand, speed, generation, etc, an incredibly expensive and heavy power brick, a somewhat incomplete keyboard layout, etc.
It is easy to see that even the best of the best machines have some problems…