New Dual M.2 Adapter announced & available now

~edit~
Official forum announcement thread is up now

My original post below, which might still be helpful for some.

Marketplace link: Dual M.2 Adapter bundle
Options to purchase with an Expansion Bay Shell, Interposer, and / or SSDs of different capacities.

What parts do you need?

You do NOT have a GPU graphics module (click to show)

Dual M.2 Adapter bundle
This link should pre-select what you need.

Namely

  1. The Dual M.2 Adapter PCB drop-in board
  2. A graphics-type full interposer. Labeled “Graphics Module Interposer” in the marketplace.

You would drop in the Dual M.2 Adapter PCB into the plain fan-only Expansion Bay Shell that you should have.

You will also need a screwdriver. So if you lost your Framework one & don’t have another, Framework-screwdriver

You DO have a GPU graphics module (click to show)

If you use the Dual M.2 Adapter bundle link, then you need to change the selections to match what you need.

  1. The Dual M.2 Adapter PCB drop-in board
  2. An “Expansion Bay Shell”. This is a plain fan-only Shell. Different from the GPU graphics module shell.

You should have a graphics-type full interposer. Aka “Graphics Module Interposer” in the marketplace.

You will also need a screwdriver. So if you lost your Framework one & don’t have another, Framework-screwdriver

Framework youtube video announcing the Dual M.Adapter (youtu.be/mXRd0KTKmPU)

Of course this is only for the Framework Laptop 16. There is no place for it in the 13 inch model. Just to be clear.

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Would this fit into the Framework Laptop 16 Graphics Module Cover (empty) so we can add the larger Left and Right fans as well? Looks like this board has the fan connectors already??

I’m afraid it looks designed for the standard bay. Not the GPU Graphics bay.

Just want to make super duper sure - does it NOT come with the interposer? The description says one is required - so im assuming it doesn’t.

From the video and the description, I am pretty sure that’s correct. It would not come with an interposer. And it requires a graphics-type full interposer. The interposer for the fan-only bay is simpler, fewer pins.

If you have a GPU graphics expansion bay, then you could use the interposer you have.

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I do not have the graphics module nor the interposer, so I would have to order one alongside…

Thank you for the quick reply ^^

That’s a bummer. For people that don’t already have the graphics module, that adds another 32€ to the price tag, which increases the price of the 45€ dual M.2 module by ~70% to 77€.

I must say, 45€ is rather cheap for the expansion module, but not having the correct interposer for it out of the box makes it a bit less cheap.

This is a very welcome addition. I set up a dual 4TB SSD for mirroring after I learned the hard way when a SSD died (writing data just when the power failed) and now Framework supports my optimal configuration.

Would it be possible to connect SATA 2.5-inch or 3.5-inch drives to the m.2 slots using some sort of convertor? Also is it even worth it to connect it directly instead of using a USB 3.0 to SATA convertor?
I am asking as I have a 3.5 inch and a 2.5 inch SATA HDD that I would like to directly connect.

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Received the kit today. It appears to have the wrong pads, or the directions have a mistake.

2x 1.25
1x 1.75
2x 2.25

@Destroya - FYI. I guess I will have to reach out to Support and ask that they send me another 1.75 pad. I know that shipping is not on you, but this took a week to make it from NJ to southern NY state, so then to have the wrong parts has me a bit salty.

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Following up on this, another user had the same issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/1hji90v/dual_m2_adapter_documentation/

@Destroya, apologies to ping you again, but the documentation here appears to be wrong: Install Dual M.2 Adapter - Framework Guides

See steps 6 and 11. The labels mentioned do not match the specs - “B” is 1.75 and “C” is 2.25 on the bags that I have, but the steps mention “B” as 2.25 and “C” as 1.75. For now I am going to put the 1.75 on the back of the module and the two 2.25 on the ssds.

I try to be forgiving, but frankly this is pretty sloppy and disappointing. I love my machines and I have had good luck with them, this is a minor thing, but it also is something that absolutely should have been caught by reviewing a draft of the documentation and having someone go through the procedure.

I will hold off on opening a case with Support pending clarification of the documentation. Hopefully I don’t have to take things back apart, but if so, not the end of the world.

Thank you, and have a good evening!

We’ve escalated this internally, based on these two reports, trying to understand if we made a mistake creating the guides or if we sent you missing parts.

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Apologies for the short tone.

I went ahead with the 1.75 under the module and the 2.25 under the SSDs. They (both single-sided) did not squish the pads, so if I had to guess, I would say that the documentation is in error. Your engineers will know better than I, though.

Others may have run into the issue and just worked through it. Unfortunately I’m not that bright, and I also (clearly) get hung up on specific details.

Thank you for your help with this, have a good evening, happy holidays, and a happy new year!

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Since I just received one 2.25 pad (in my case as bag C) and two of 1.25 (A) and 1.75 (B) each, I went with the 2.25 under the module and the 1.75 under the SSD.
When I tried to leave a comment in the guide about the mixed up bags, it got marked as spam by the AI initially… but support took care of that after I filed a notice.

Btw, while peeling the 1.75 pad off, parts of it stuck to the transparent plastic foil, so I had to use a 1.25 one to fix that. So I’m unsure which one is right.
Quite some issues that need improvement… :wink:

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I usually get them cold (fridge is fine; freezer unnecessary). It helps.

On the other hand, check this out

Comparable publicity of the Framework 16 launch. This is good news.

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If that really helps, it should get included into the official guide.

I wonder why you haven’t linked to the TheVerge News article about the Dual M.2 Adapter. Sure, this time it’s good, that it just gets mentioned and not reviewed, due to the guide / mixed-up heatpad bags issue.

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They generally are willing to stay together (or at least, deform less) when they are cold, versus when they are warm. But, shouldn’t be a huge case.

They also vary a lot from manufacturer to manufacturer. Personally I like the firm ones, but that might not have as good a thermal conductivity, but most stuff that use pads dont need that much cooling.

I also have a very high tendency to just leave one side of the film on, because I dont have to deal with the mess when I swap SSDs.

I have lots of SSDs. I have over 10 (m.2s), I only bought … well, ok, 4. But. but 3 is for my NAS, so.

There are numerous articles. German, English, NoteBook Check, etc.

TLDR

I think the verge is a little bit too harsh on it. Like, yeah, software crash, big deal.

Basically every computer have some fundamental problem with the software.

Lenovo with the insane PM driver that sleeps Windows for Windows. It “works fine”, but does it really? Sure, 5 BIOS update a year, but they also have a history of releasing BIOS update that breaks things. Multiple times.

The Dell with the crazy sound stuff, though mostly it works. But the Intel Rapid Restore Technology, (or the other 100 names. ISWD) crashes when you try to do something slightly funny, even though BIOS knows what is going on.

Dell have good BIOS and stuff. But then the plastic consturction on anything non-XPS or precision (even ones with metal lids), the Hinge Problem. The LG Gram is nice, but it is more flexible than a plastic bag.

By comparison, sure the 16 is now discovered to have its own issues with chassis flex, thermals, sleep, keyboard, bezel, build quality, drivers, EC, charging, but none of them are actively threatening to tear the laptop apart from the inside out. Therefore, it automatically becomes top choice.

I can make compromise, with the heating issue, so long as there is no liquid metal that can actively try to destroy the mainbaord. I can deal with the fact that I can still not sleep, or hibernate, my computer (cold boots on wakeup instead), or that it “doesn’t have Windows 10 support”.

They made a laptop, where I can outright destroy a port (such as by jamming a screwdriver and turning 90 degrees), or have a plug stuck in it and snap it in half, and it will cost me $9-29 and 5 seconds to replace it. With lots of ports, without a hinge problem, cheap RAM (I don’t even care if it is soldered), lots of ports and storage, and quite a trustworthy BIOS, if a bit unpolished.

The point I have is, even the bad reviewers (such as TheVerge’s) walked away with “this is exciting stuff”. If I am a big nerd or something, and I came across this article, I might just have been sold. It is, “the most ambitious laptop ever made”.

But then, what do I know. I don’t run a million-dollar business.

This is great. Already ordered mine. I might be skipping the next 3 generations of bo … hm.

I probably shouldn’t have bought that cooler, should I? Wait for next gen and see if it fits.

Will the Dual M.2 Adapter fit in the Framework Laptop 16 Graphics Module Cover? So that I can take advantage of the larger fans? I can purchase the left and right graphics module large fans separately as well as the graphics interposer. That’s why I ask if I can do this?

It don’t look like it can. The back screws look to be in a different location.

That’s a bummer, would have been really nice to be able to install the larger fans with the additional drives to move air more efficiently.