The email mentioned that the production will start around mid-September and I assume that means that the laptop will start shipping in late-September like the previous emails mentioned?
And by “enter production”, does it mean that factories will be pumping out MOBO or does it mean that workers will start to assemble the laptop, or both?
Just out of curiosity, has there been any clarification re who gets to receive these updates? I wasn’t able to find confirmation. If not, it would be great if FW could clarify as I would have expected that such relatively important information be communicated directly to everyone with a qualifying order. I’m two months into my pre-order and never received any of the updates re power draw issues.
Not a huge deal breaker for my personal choice of expansion cards, just a matter of principle, I suppose.
In any case, thanks for keeping us updated!
Edit: Removed misunderstanding on my part re front ports having previously been affected too. No relevance and change to main sentiment point in post.
I asked support last week, they told me that these updates were being sent to the first 3 batches (I am in the fourth one). I suggested sending it to everyone who has a preorder and they said they’d pass this to the team, so I hope… For now we have to rely on fellow buyers sharing here 
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Somewhere it was also mentioned why this is:
FW only sends the mails to the batches they deem affected by the delay resulting from the difficulties. Owing to large production capacities built up, they still are expecting Batch4 to ship on-date that was promised when preorders opened. That’s why there was no notification I guess.
That makes sense, I’m in batch 4. Thanks for suggesting circulating it to all, glad to see FW has acknowledged the suggestion.
This makes perfect sense for batches where delays are expected for things like firmware delay issues, etc which other than getting your order later are virtually a non-issue. I guess the issue in this concrete case is that there may end up being hardware quirks wrt expansion card choices that could affect all batches, even if some ship on time. Even if ultimately they may solved in firmware, in my view as a customer, it would be desirable to keep all potentially affected customers in the loop so they can know what to expect.
On a side note, if it’s a retimer issue and there aren’t viable USB4 retimer alternatives, I wonder if the upcoming AMD FW16 is also affected.
Fingers crossed for best case scenario!
I’ve just received an email saying mass production of the Framework 13 AMD version has started! Let’s goooo!
I hope they release the supported memories we can use.
This has been in the Knowledge Base for months - if that’s what you’re looking for:
/herodot
It’s not.
Probably you didn’t read the whole thread but many people here(myself included) are worried about which specific memories will work as most memories in the market use XMP and are not explicit about their JEDEC timmings.
@herodot As best as I can see, all that article contains so far is a promise to test some RAM sticks and list the results—there are no actual results there yet, and in fact hardly anything except for the statement that DDR5-5600 should be supported (as expected from AMD’s specs for the CPU).
I don’t mean to accuse Framework of anything or even complain about them — I’m certain they have a lot on their plate right now — but I do mean to say that this is much less than what I wish the article contained, and certainly insufficient for me to shop for RAM with any degree of confidence.
(I’m also more than a little bit surprised at the statement about ECC, because AMD lists ECC for the specific SKUs the Framework 13 is using given “platform support”, whatever that means. But I can readily believe that AMD is being screwy about this in some way, and the realities of business being what they are, Framework can hardly go out and say it.)
Hello all. We’re not being cagey. We recommend against XMP memory due to compatibility issues. As far as ECC support, we can 100% confirm it is not something that will be available. The 7040u series CPUs that we’re offering are not the “Pro” series variants which are required for full ECC support, per AMD.
Avoid XMP and you should be fine with DDR5 SODIMMs with standard timings (DDR5-5600 recommended).
There is no conspiracy here.
So, question about that. Is only 5600 supported? I’m happy I was able to get my hands on 5600 before mine shipped, but if I hadn’t, would I be screwed? That’s an answer I can’t seem to find anywhere.
Unfortunately most of memories in the market are XMP that’s why having a list of tested memories would be useful.
It will probably reduce support inquiries and debug time.
Thank you for the definitive answer! Wonder what AMD mean when they list ECC support for the non-PRO versions (at the links in my post above), but of course that’s not a question for you 
Like with every Computer you can put in slower RAM and it will work - at slower speed.
Most likely you can put in faster RAM - if it’s to fast it will be clocked down to 5600 and will work too. Maybe you need to clock down manually in BIOS.
You’re sure about SO-DIMMS too?? If I search for DDR5-5600 SO-DIMMs up to 16GB I get 14 without XMP and only 2 with XMP, over all sizes it’s 29 vs. 8: Geizhals.at (german)
EDIT: please be aware that these information may or may not be incorrect. Please double check with the manufacturer website.
Your link has a search result that’s misleading I suggest you to enter into the manufacturer and get the real specification.
Memories that support only JEDEC are not the majority for sure. Most of them is a mix between JEDEC and some other stuff like XMP, PnP and EXPO.
If no compatible list is released until dispatched I’ll probably go with Kingston Value RAM.
Or Crucial they have only JEDEC as far as i know.
That’s a good suggestion, Crucial seems cheaper.
Thanks!
I’m currently looking at a Crucial kit and a Kingston Fury Impact kit, and I’ll just note that the timings of the Crucial are larger (slower), at CL46-45-45, than those of the Kingston, CL40-40-40. Unfortunately, I can’t for the life of me figure out whether the spec sheet means whether the latter are the JEDEC timings or the PnP overclocking timings without the JEDEC ones being listed at all. (Kingston’s non-“gaming” kit seems the same as Crucial, though, at CL46-45-45.)
Did it randomly. Found only G.Skill having XMP-RAM (correctly advertised in my search). Crucial, Teamgroup, Kingston (both Fury and ValueRAM), Transcend and Adata didn’t mention XMP. Patriot has both XMP and JEDEC. So there seems to be plenty of choices.
Do you think some of them use XMP and alike without mentioning it? That would be misleading for sure.
I guess it’s much different for Dekstop RAM, didn’t check that for DDR5 yet. But at least for DDR4 there were a lot more XMP- than JEDEC-Kits.