[RESPONDED] AMD Batch 1 Guild

LOL no problem, I’m just glad it’s there now. Thank you!

Oml I’m just imagining you performing a steak out of your own neighborhood just laying in wait for your moment…

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You don’t want to know how accurate you are…:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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For everyone who wanted to know some benchmarks I made a post on reddit.

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Seconded. I had been using Debian from about Woody (3.0) to Squeeze (6), when I moved my daily drivers to Gentoo, which I’ve been using since. For much of my Debian time I used “testing” and never had any major issues, sans the odd dependency problem which would resolve no more than a day or two later. Even today for non-daily driver uses (e.g. Raspberry Pi, live USB drive) I use Debian and this thing continues to meet its main selling point as “rock solid”. Even with the “testing” branch which, as @coucouf points out, is pretty similar to a “rolling” distro. And compatibility is high as many third-party packages come in .deb (or .rpm).

I would certainly recommend people to try Debian stable, or testing if stable moves too slow for their liking.

In contrast, Ubuntu gives me pains and aches every… single… time… I’ve tried to use it (incl 22.10) until I ultimately lost all confidence. I’m obviously very biased on the matter, but in my view Ubuntu, as it is today, is an absolute disaster and train wreck. For regular 6mo release distros Fedora is, in my view, far superior.

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Just got my 7840U board. Not POSTing with Crucial 2x 16 GB 5600 MHz kit CT2K16G56C46S5. Swapped sticks and still has a black screen with the fan blasting after more than 10 minutes.

I’m reading online that desktop Zen 4 takes up to 400 seconds for memory training with 4 DIMMs. Should in theory be less with 2.

EDIT: It booted successfully with a single stick. Now diagnosing whether it’s compatibility, or a bad DIMM/slot.

EDIT 2: Bad DIMM. Amazon kicked me to Crucial who is giving me a compatibility runaround. The one stick works perfectly, the second doesn’t. Getting frustrating.

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@Todd_Freeman - great to hear that you got it working. Now that it is, how are the deep blacks? :slight_smile:

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@Todd_Freeman I was going to ask the same thing! :laughing:

Yeah RMAs can be a pain especially if you didn’t buy directly from the manufacturer and it’s outside the normal return window, sigh. Hopefully they will work with you. I’ve had to RMA with Crucial before due to a bad stick as well.

My mainboard is out for delivery today so hoping I don’t have a repeat…

EDIT: up and running, having some issues getting the old mainboard working on my TV in the Cooler Master case but probably user error…

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Mine arrived today and I had the same problem. I ordered the RAM from Framework. However I noticed that the LEDs on the side were flashing different colurs, it was indicating an issue with RAM. So I moved the single DIMM to Slot 2 and it then it posted.

Have you tried cleaning the contacts? DDR5 is a lot more sensitive to stuff like finger oils on the contacs than previous versions were.

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I could get into BIOS but I couldn’t boot my Arch Linux installation media (6.5.7 kernel). Is there something like secure boot turned on by default?

EDIT: I’ve found the switch. It’s indeed enabled by default.

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Did anybody try to boot without an SSD or with an empty SSD? I’ve hit problems booting and don’t know what to expect exactly.

Current expectation is as follows:

  • Hit power
  • Only first boot a minute or two of memory training, black screen (seen this in a unboxing)
  • POST LED blinking
  • Framework logo and text on black (seen this in unboxing, never on mine)
  • Some kind of error caused by no boot media, possibly a display of hot keys for bios entry (this is a guess)

What I’m getting:

  • Hit power
  • 1 minute black screen
  • POST LED blinking
  • Nothing else, just black screen with backlight on

Details here (AMD RAM issues thread)

Just looking for the expected sequence of events in case of a fully working setup with empty or missing SSD. I have contacted support, but I expect them to be flooded with requests currently :slight_smile:

Do you get the POST LED blinking directly after power on when the system is fully working?

Edit1: I believe my internal display is broken. Disconnecting that and connecting an external monitor via HDMI card shows the system menu and messages relating to boot.

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Mine were just flashing red, which I believe is “chassis open” if I recall. One stick works in either slot, and the other stick works in neither.

Brand new kit, only opened today. Never touched the contacts, and they’re clean.

Preemptively ordered an identical kit from B&H because it looks like Crucial wants to only replace the defective DIMM and break up the matched pair. Amazon said they would cover the purchase if Crucial gives me trouble, and it sounds like they may be.

Got mine this morning and put F39 on it. Kinda… barely works though. :frowning: No GPU acceleration in anything (most stuff I need to use fails to start with llvmpipe/lavapipe). It doesn’t sleep when I close it, and if I sleep from the Gnome menu it won’t wake up. Can’t adjust the screen brightness, and the default is really dim. Fingerprint sensor refuses to add any of my fingers. Can’t figure out how to make the F-keys work. Etc.

I compiled a bunch of my tools though and the CPU is fast at least…

Well my Ryzen 7 board and 64GB DDR5 kit showed up today, and initial impressions are real good! As for some more nerdy findings…

  • Frameworks memory kit supports CAS 40 according to cpuz and it’s JEDEC timings table, but runs at 46. The memory is made by A-Data and uses SKHynix DRAM, which isn’t surprising.
  • Wifi, for me atleast, seems faster with the AMD card compared to the Intel AX210 in both Fedora 39 and Windows 11.
  • BIOS is much nicer than it was on my old Intel 11th gen board
  • Speakers are LOUDER than they were on my Intel 11th gen board, a VERY nice bonus surprise! :smiley:

As for issues, first boot took for ever, and laptop didn’t want to power on without being plugged into the wall first. Both are not really surprising though.

Also found a BIOS bug, it seems you can’t change the boot order with 3.02. Hopefully this is fixed in the 3.03 BIOS once it releases. :slight_smile:

But ya, glad I got lucky by having a friend who didn’t want his batch 1 order and sold it to me instead. :sweat_smile: But after my experience with the hardware, he ended up reordering in batch 8.

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Received and updated.

I added some more details for this post. SPECviewperf and Geekbench were requested. Counter-Strike 2 and GTA V also play fine at 60 FPS ish if you keep settings low or normal at 1080p.

Can’t help you there. I had a SSD ready to go with Windows 11 and Linux Mint for months.

Can confirm this as well. I was surprised that I had a boot order menu but it wasn’t usable at all.

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Just FYI, I was able to get around this BIOS bug by using efibootmgr in Fedora. So setting boot order in userspace works as expected with Linux. :slight_smile:

Yeah same solution but with Mint in my case :grin: