[Responded] System Freezing Issue on Fedora 41 (Kernel 6.11)

Which Linux distro are you using?
Fedora

Which release version?
(if rolling release without a release version, skip this question)
41 workstation
(If rolling release, last date updated?)

Which kernel are you using?
6.11.4-301.fc41.x86_64

Which BIOS version are you using?
03.05

Which Framework Laptop 13 model are you using? (AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series, Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 1, 13th Gen Intel® Core™ , 12th Gen Intel® Core™, 11th Gen Intel® Core™)
Framework 13 with amd ryzen 7840

System Configuration

  • OS: Fedora 41
  • Kernel: 6.11
  • Note: I’ve avoided newer kernels (6.12, 6.13) due sluggishness and performance issues which are also consistent in other distros such as ubuntu

Issue Description

I’m experiencing complete system freezes requiring forced shutdowns. The system was previously stable for months with this configuration.

Timeline

  • Initially: Freezes began last weekend, occurring specifically when starting Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Flatpak Steam installation) and clicking “Continue” to enter the game
  • Current situation: As of today, freezes now occur during normal browser usage without any games running

Freeze Symptoms

  • System becomes completely unresponsive
  • TTY switching doesn’t work
  • Mouse cursor moves, but nothing else responds
  • Audio keeps playing for some time
  • SSH connections still work during freezes
  • Attempted to kill processes (game, browser, gnome-shell) via SSH without success

Logs

I’ve collected the following diagnostic information:

  1. journalctl -b -1 -p 3 output after forced reboot: Mar 05 17:51:20 fedora kernel: ucsi_acpi USBC000:00: unknown error 0Mar 05 17: - Pastebin.com
  2. dmesg output captured via SSH during game-induced freeze: [ 0.000000] Linux version 6.11.4-301.fc41.x86_64 (mockbuild@9b6b61418589428cb - Pastebin.com

Any help diagnosing this issue would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, Fedora 41 has known issues with freezing.

other have tried with some success

  1. Updating linux to 6.13.5

  2. Downgrading mesa to major version 24

/Zoe

edited to specify patch version on the kernel.

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Howdy @test!

As Zoe helpfully mentioned, there have been some growing pains with some of the more recent Linux kernels and mesa versions. We’re actively working on finding some of the exact causes and getting fixes in place.

At the moment, a fully up to date Fedora system with kernel 6.13.5 or greater seems to be a good place for AMD’s mobile platforms. You may similarly have good luck with the Ubuntu version of kernel 6.11 present in 24.04.2 or 24.10. To make a complicated story short, Ubuntu’s kernels are not the same as the mainline kernel and are often heavily customized, including fixes from newer versions.

I would recommend getting yourself onto kernel 6.13.5 or newer as a starting point, potentially roll back MESA to major version 24 for now if issues persist.

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Thanks, downgrading and locking mesa drivers did help.

Previously kernel 6.12 and 6.13 would get sluggish so i was stuck with 6.11, but now i’m able to run 6.13.5 as you suggested without issues.

Is there somewhere where this issue is tracked? i’d like to stay up to date on what works and what doesn’t if any issues arise

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what I do is that I read this forum, their exist an new, and a Unread tab.

new will tell you if any thing new i posted on the forum

https://community.frame.work/new

and unread will tell you if any topics you have read has anything new.

https://community.frame.work/unread

/Zoe

mesa issues on freedesktop gitlab is probably the best place to look for/report issues.

Just one anecdata point, I’m on a FW13 7840U on F41 GNOME Wayland with kernel 6.13.5-200.fc41 and mesa 25.0.0-2.fc41 and haven’t seen any issues.

Although the problem is fixed, there is a small degradation in performance, after noticing this for the last week, i decided to verify with geekbench

  • Previously i was getting: 2500 single core and 12k multicore
  • And now i get: 2200 single core and 11k multicore

mesa is under rapid development as it is a core part of many operating system, dramatic performance between major versions is expected. same goes for the kernel, and regressions is possible.