Which Framework Laptop 16 model are you using? (AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series)
run0 dmidecode --string system-product-name
Laptop 16 (AMD Ryzen 7040 Series)
My Problem
When I last attempted to update my installation of cpe:/o:fedoraproject:fedora:44 (via, verbatim, sudo pwsh -C 'flatpak update -y; dnf5 upgrade -y --refresh --offline && dnf5 offline reboot -y'), I observed:
The relevant upgrade log is, per dnf5 history info 275, the undermentioned:
Transaction ID : 275
Begin time : 2026-09-15 10:34:19
Begin rpmdb : 8ee8a7a9927b627224314b28e0479070a10353dea542cbedd7e98ff0a964066f
End time : 2026-09-15 10:34:21
End rpmdb : 27cab2f9ec53821ec2dfe04ebc7559265e92fe6e8919b8f3223284d019e989e3
User : 0 Super User <root>
Status : Ok
Releasever : 44
Description :
Comment :
Packages altered:
Action Package Reason Repository
Upgrade libabw-0:0.1.4-1.fc44.x86_64 Dependency updates
Upgrade librevenge-0:0.0.6-1.fc44.x86_64 Dependency updates
Upgrade perl-DBI-0:1.653-1.fc44.x86_64 Dependency updates
Replaced libabw-0:0.1.3-19.fc44.x86_64 Dependency @System
Replaced librevenge-0:0.0.5-13.fc44.x86_64 Dependency @System
Replaced perl-DBI-0:1.652-1.fc44.x86_64 Dependency @System
Is this [potentially] problematic, and if so, [how] should I resolve this?
A good level of detail in your post, but I am not fully sure of the problem. I take it you just got the EFI error in a log somewhere, and your machine is not bricked by a BIOS update?
OK, gotcha. Did it appear just once, or does it always appear on boot? If it is just once then I would be minded not to worry about it.
It looks like your upgrade (via your package manager) is not the brickable kind anyway. Given the other topics in the forum about that topic, I assume only fwupdmgr update/upgrade ops can do that.
What does sudo fwupdmgr get-updates give you? (My own view is that the get-updates sub-command cannot do any damage, but do ask questions before running if you are nervous; no doubt another forum member will be happy to give a second opinion).
Once that I confidently recall, thus far, although it may have appeared once more, some months ago.
[run0] fwupdmgr get-updates returns:
Devices with no available firmware updates:
• Windows Production PCA
• Bolt Receiver
• Hub
• KEK CA
• Laptop DB
• Laptop KEK
• MX Master 4
• Option ROM UEFI CA
• Touchpad
• WD BLACK SN850X 1000GB
Devices with the latest available firmware version:
• System Firmware
• Fingerprint Sensor
• Laptop 16 Keyboard Module - ISO
• Laptop 16 Numpad Module
• UEFI CA
• UEFI dbx
Successfully uploaded report
No updates available
@James3 and @Squiggler, superb to hear. However, it has reproduced again. Consequently, does anyone know what best to search for, in something like JournalCtl, to ascertain why it continues to fail to apply? I ask because, if feasible, I do not want my firmware to be outdated. (My laptop occasionally stores sensitive documents, so it must be secure!)
I would not advise anyone to upgrade their BIOS at the moment.
Wait until FW report on why BIOS updates are bricking laptops, and then use their proposed fix for that bricking.
From a security perspective.
Just keep the laptop with you at all times. That is the only way to know someone else has not been at it.
I don’t know what level of sensitive documents you might have, but the author of those documents will likely have security handling requirements for them. I.e. What computer systems they are allowed to be or or not, and what sort of Data-at-Rest Encryption is needed.
If you mean you got an error in your logs with no discernible degradation of laptop performance, then I would absolutely ignore it.
Sure. Security is hard though; it is as weak as your weakest defence. If you clear up your logs, but don’t encrypt your local disk, then your computer security comes to naught if someone can just snatch your laptop when you leave it for thirty seconds in a cafe. If you don’t run 2FA on your password manager and someone gets into your email account, then they’ll just grab your documents from your cloud storage. And so on.
I think we established that, for now, your BIOS firmware is not outdated.
@Squiggler, rather, I observe a full-screen error every few OS reinitialisations, when I presume that FWUPDMgr (via Plasma Discover) attempts to apply updates.
Ah, interesting. I would imagine that it’s not exactly fwupdmgr, but it could be related. If fwupdmgr finds and installs a new BIOS update, it will put your BIOS in a mode that does final initialisations at boot time, because it cannot reload the BIOS while the BIOS is running. So I wonder if the BIOS knows there is a new version, but it can’t quite switch to it due to an error.
This is one of the reasons I personally prefer the UEFI boot from a USB update method. The system is already in a state where it can be updated and nothing else is loaded into the system at that time to cause a potential issue.
It is not as convenient, but the old school updating methods were the only choice we had for a long time and worked well for what needed to be done.
If anyone knows how to ascertain whether an update for my EFI firmware exists, how to re-initiate it (to acquire logs), and how to extract the relevant logs, I shall be glad. Otherwise, I suppose that I shall ask an LLM in the meantime, because if a bug exists, I shall report it at FW’s relevant GitHub repository.