When does the 16-inch intel framework laptop come

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Is there a 16-inch intel framework laptop coming or do I net to get the 13-inch model?

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Nothing has been announced. Your guess is as good, if not better, than anyone elseā€™s here.

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Hi and welcome to the forum.

I can see you may want the 16" version but given you may opt for the 13" then you donā€™t actually need the 16". Further do you ā€˜needā€™ the 13"?

What is it you actually want?

Is the top priority a Framework laptop or Intel?

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I want a 16-inch intel framework laptop

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Thatā€™s not happening now so how long are you prepared to wait?
and you said initially you would consider a 13" so why Framework ?

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This actually got me thinking. Typical Intel CPUs for 13" laptops 3-4 years ago were pretty underpowered, for example, you wouldnā€™t even think about putting i7-1165G7 into a 15"+ laptop. But lately their processors got quite powerhungry. Iā€™ve got a NUC with i7-1360, and itā€™s ā€œnormalā€ TDP in the NUC is set to 40 watts.

Extrapolating this trend to the latest Intel U-series generation, I could see that even just putting the same U-series CPU thatā€™s in the 13" into a 16" chassis would have benefits, while saving significantly on RnD work for Framework.

Thereā€™s probably something wrong with this idea, or there are non-technical barriers behind the scenes, but on the off chance there could be some benefit, @nrp what do you think? :slight_smile:

Edit: One benefit to Intel on FW16 I could see compared to AMD is boosting behavior for heavy single-threaded workloads.

I noticed that AMD is not as advanced in their boosting algorithm when only a single core is active: on Windows 11, if I set CPU levels to min 0%, max 100% in power profile advanced settings, then the CPU dowclocks to 2 GHz at idle, but doesnā€™t boost above 3 GHz when a single thread creates a 100% load. This means those workloads run longer than they should. But if I set min 100%, max 100%, then the laptop correctly hits 4.5 GHz when loading single thread, but doesnā€™t downclock below 4 GHz at idle, surely leading to higher power consumption. On my Intel NUC I get both downclocking and boosting when appropriate.

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That sounds like a bug, but itā€™s kind of off topic. Make a new thread? Iā€™d be interested to hear more about this.

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