Is there a 16-inch intel framework laptop coming or do I net to get the 13-inch model?
Nothing has been announced. Your guess is as good, if not better, than anyone else’s here.
I want a 16-inch intel framework laptop
This actually got me thinking. Typical Intel CPUs for 13" laptops 3-4 years ago were pretty underpowered, for example, you wouldn’t even think about putting i7-1165G7 into a 15"+ laptop. But lately their processors got quite powerhungry. I’ve got a NUC with i7-1360, and it’s “normal” TDP in the NUC is set to 40 watts.
Extrapolating this trend to the latest Intel U-series generation, I could see that even just putting the same U-series CPU that’s in the 13" into a 16" chassis would have benefits, while saving significantly on RnD work for Framework.
There’s probably something wrong with this idea, or there are non-technical barriers behind the scenes, but on the off chance there could be some benefit, @nrp what do you think? ![]()
Edit: One benefit to Intel on FW16 I could see compared to AMD is boosting behavior for heavy single-threaded workloads.
I noticed that AMD is not as advanced in their boosting algorithm when only a single core is active: on Windows 11, if I set CPU levels to min 0%, max 100% in power profile advanced settings, then the CPU dowclocks to 2 GHz at idle, but doesn’t boost above 3 GHz when a single thread creates a 100% load. This means those workloads run longer than they should. But if I set min 100%, max 100%, then the laptop correctly hits 4.5 GHz when loading single thread, but doesn’t downclock below 4 GHz at idle, surely leading to higher power consumption. On my Intel NUC I get both downclocking and boosting when appropriate.
That sounds like a bug, but it’s kind of off topic. Make a new thread? I’d be interested to hear more about this.
Yes, i do asked the same question. I wish Framework Laptop 16 with i9.
Sorry to revive this but I was just setting up my old 11th-gen Intel board as a desktop with egpu, and it was so smooth and stable compared to trying to use the ports on my AMD 16 for anything too interesting…
The AMD USB situation really makes those models feel cheap compared to the Intel boards. Something is always a bit wonky.
I’m also excited to see that the FW12 got new DDR5 Intel boards. If we could get a similar upgrade for the FW16, so I don’t have to buy any RAM, I would be very happy.
(LPCAMM2/LPDDR5X would be great for performance, but I think it’s going to be a long time before I am willing to buy RAM
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The larger chassis of the FL16 probably allows two LPCAMM2 sticks
I’ve been wanting a Framework laptop for years and years now but 16in is the only size that works and Intel is the only platform with thunderbolt.
How long do we need to wait until we have a good framework laptop for intel users, music producers, devs and eGPU users? I don’t want i9 just i7 with 32+ GB ram on their 18a node or whatever they have coming next in blue land. I would pay whatever price to have all the framework goodies and an i7 16in. Ideally ram prices come down but I need to get away from lenovo and their awful USB audio interface issues. Razer and ASUS have their own issues and I don’t need a dGPU on a massive gaming laptop that can’t be upgraded.
Help me Framework R&D. You’re my only hope!
The original 16 started shipping approximately a year after the 7840HS was released and the upgraded AI 300 series board shipped 1.5y after the respective chip released.
What’s up with Lenovo and USB audio issues? I crossed them off from the list of brands to consider after a friend of mine had awful experience with their support after his keyboard broke, but I’m curious.