Windows license activation lessons learned (upgraded motherboard)

Okay, so lessons learned the hard way… My long story is below but for bullet points, here is what I learned:

  1. Link your activated computer to a Microsoft account! Without doing this, you may regret it. I ended up having to call Microsoft activation and they hung up on me very abruptly multiple times because my Windows license had not previously been attached to a microsoft account. (not required for win10)
  2. Window 10/11 licensing is all the same type of “digital” license so you can not retrieve it unless it’s assigned to a Microsoft account. Doesn’t matter if you purchased a legitimate retail version or not.
  3. If upgrading your motherboard, do not do a clean OS install at the same time. You must replace it, and activate your license again with the same OS installation or Microsoft will void the license. This was my biggest mistake.
  4. You can install the OS and use it fully without activation, but you just can’t change the background image.

I bought a Framework 13 a couple years ago on the 11th gen motherboard. I used it for about a month before switching over to a different laptop for multiple reasons ( better screen for outdoor use, all the ports I needed built in without having to swap cards and the rj45 doesn’t stick out, and it was 2lbs vs 3lbs. I kept my Framework because I liked the idea, wanted to support Framework and hoped to do some mods to make it better. I even bought the matte version of the screen before framework had it, but never had time to put it in. Was hoping someone would make a rugged case, or that framework would make tpu molded case like the new 12, but that never happened. And still wanting a screen with more color gamut. When I first built the laptop I purchased a retail box version of Windows separately knowing that I may transfer it to different laptops in the future.

Fast forward to 2025 it was time to try again. I upgraded to the matte 2.8k display and upgraded the motherboard from intel 11th gen to the amd 7840U. First I installed the screen. The next month installed the new motherboard… but here is where I want all wrong… I did a fresh install of the OS on the same drive without a backup of the original activated Windows OS. When I tried to activate it was very quickly denied. I tried the troubleshooter, searched online everywhere, and eventually called Microsoft using their phone text link to online assistant, their phone automated system, and eventually talking to 3 different employees. All 3 hung up on me at different points. And two of them even took my number and gave me a case number if we got disconnected. But none of them called me back, and getting to a real human is a pain in the butt on their phone activation support line. I ended up using another Windows 10 oem license that I had purchased but never used on a prior laptop. And it activated instantly. But my original retail key would not activate even though it had before on the old motherboard.

So if you are going from intel to AMD, you need to keep your old OS installation initially. Even if you are upgrading from 10 to 11, best to upgrade to 11 on the old motherboard, check activation, then replace motherboard, check activation, and then if you want to take that chance & do a clean install of the OS with the license already on your microsoft account you can try. Just have a backup of the old OS. Or do an install keeping your old OS on the drive like you would do as a OS repair.

My laptop was never linked into a microsoft account, it was a “local account” and without it being attached to a microsoft account, the support persons were simply not willing to help and hung up. I even had one controlling my computer remotely but once she saw it wasn’t in my account previously (was now) click and hung up and disconnected. In that process, you have to link it to an account to get help. And if you want to turn it back to a “local account”, it’s not easy, but can be done It forces you to create a different user name even though it’s the same profile and directory name. So then you have to create a new name, then you can change it back to the original name after that. Now with windows 11 they pretty much force you into not using a local account. This is for a my work laptop and I don’t have internet at most of my work places.

There is a lot if miss-information online so take every “fix” or everything you read with a grain of salt because most of it is no longer valid. I may not keep using this laptop as I’ve grown so used to have more ports and a lighter laptop for all the travel I do. If I ever buy the Framework Desktop, I will go down the licensing path with my old retail license in more depth because it should allow me to transfer it to a different computer! I’m sure that will become a week long quest with Microsoft :frowning:

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Wow, what a huge pain.

Glad to never deal with all that. :penguin:

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Always have a backup…of both software (disk data) and hardware (the board, the disk), always have a rollback / backout plan…and always, change only one thing at a time.

So I have reinstalled Windows on my FW 13 several times and with different mainboards as well. I have NEVER associated my Microsoft account to my Windows install.

I did not buy a pre-configured FW 13 though. It was always DIY and I bought the Windows license on the side. IE: It was not pre-installed or an OEM based key.

In all of my installs, reinstalls, and even installs in a VM I have never had an issue of using the key I have to activate Windows. I have done it at least 10 times over the course of 3 years.

While you didn’t mention it, I do suspect this has to do with the differences in an OEM key (pre-installed) and a DIY separate purchase. Still, it sounds like typical MS, and a good cautionary tale for those with a OEM key.

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You can do this in several ways:

  1. When you buy a retail key (which Framework does), they give you a retail key. You put it into the computer.
  2. When you sign in to that computer, this key is now bound to you. When you sign in on other computers, this will also work.
  3. If you don’t have a account, you should be able to just enter the key. If the thing says “not working”, use the “I changed hardware recently” option.

Things disabled:
(for Windows 10, I havent tried unactivated 11)
Customization (you can do that by applying a packaged theme file from another computer). This is mostly for the color. If you want to change background, just right click on file and say “set as desktop background”
Watermark – you are not getting rid of that. You also lose performance in gaming.

I went back and forth with Microsoft for 3 hours because I bought a OEM key, I thought those are transferrable. They are not. So I shelled out big money for a used Windows 8.1 Pro key. Which worked on 10, except earlier last year they were shutting down Windows 8 stuff, so for like 4 month it didnt.

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Mine were also DIY and my license purchased was an actual retail box at a brick’n’motar reputable computer store, so I was very shocked to have this issue. It was not an OEM key. The license I ended up putting on the machine was an OEM key, first time use.

2disbetter: out of curiosity, were your mainboard replacements always intel variant?

Yes, all of my upgrades have been Intel. I would like to go AMD in the future, but I have noticed that AMD, in general, has a bit more bugs than Intel. I also like the 4 x thunderbolt lanes on the Intel based mainboards.

Is it possible that this key was intended for another manufacturer?

Is it possible that this key was intended for another manufacturer?

As I have written above, the license I was using was a “retail boxed” legitimate license for Windows. It was not related to any manufacturer and was originally used on my 11th gen intel motherboard Framework. Retail box copies have been said online to allow up to 10 times activation providing they are never active at the same time, but I don’t believe everything online. The actual license should allow such. I suspect windows activation may be more harsh going from one chip manufacturer to another even though it shouldn’t. I also suspect things have gotten tighter controlled in the past couple years by MS.