3rd party ARM mainboard from "MetaComputing"

I’ve never heard of metacomputing before, but as far as I can tell this is the first ARM mainboard for framework so thought I’d share it here.

Neat seeing more 3rd party boards coming out, I think this is the 3rd now? ‘Cause we got 2 deepcomputing mainboards.

Please excuse the incorrect tag on this post, it forced me to use a tag but there isn’t one for ARM yet so I chose the only 3rd party tag available.

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16W at idle, I’ll pass

I ordered one about a week ago

I did order something like that from a near-identical company called deepcomputing, I am still working on the project of porting fedora to it with all the features working

the issue with this (metacomputing ARM) mainboard appears to be high power consumption at idle, I think this specific CPU at design should have high latency between core2core access (because of the layout), but I am waiting to get it to make a report

weirdly enough I didn’t get any shipping notification for a week :stuck_out_tongue: maybe I was tricked, but assuming that deepcomputing did send me a board, I don’t think it’s likely, I checked them up and they share a CEO

Sadly it looks like the memory shortages bumped the price substantially; it’s showing as $906 for the mainboard + 16GB LPDDR5 + 1TB NVMe SSD now (up from $549), and between $1400-1600 in a full build with the Framework 13 chassis.

I’m hoping to receive a test unit next month, and will be posting my benchmarks and usage info here, prior to writing up a more in depth review on my blog/YouTube: MetaComputing AI PC Framework 13 Mainboard with Cix CP8180 · Issue #103 · geerlingguy/sbc-reviews · GitHub

Has anyone else received a unit for testing yet, or one that they’ve ordered?

It looks like they’re running a version of Debian in their main image, off this Linux 6.6.89 fork.

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I’ve started my testing (full results will be posted here)—one quick note, the idle power consumption (with battery fully charged, after 2 hours in that state, and display off) is around 11-12W. Maximum power consumption under load (without GPU engaged, and screen still off) is around 32W.

Geekbench 6 scores are in line with Radxa Orion O6 and Minisforum MS-R1, and the default install MetaComputing provides is Ubuntu 25.04 on the Linux 6.6 kernel. (Default kernel for vanilla Ubuntu 25.04 is 6.14).

I haven’t explored the BIOS, but it looks like it’s TianoCore EDKII, and I’m currently on a beta version. I have the model with 16GB RAM.

Also of note, the prices shown on the MetaComputing website have gone down since my last post:

  • $798 - Mainboard with 16 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Cooler Master case
  • $963 - Same, with 32 GB RAM
  • $1280 - Full Framework 13 build with 16 GB of RAM
  • $1468 - Same, with 32 GB of RAM
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See related discussion, too: ARM-based CPUs

One note in that thread:

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@yuning_liang - I was wondering, is there a newer BIOS that might have further idle power fixes? Right now I’m seeing 11W idle, with the display off, after letting the battery charge overnight.

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I’ve updated the BIOS, and now idle is settling in around 7.9W (a 30% reduction, nice!), and maximum power consumption settles in around 26.5W (which is lower than the previous 31.7W), though performance results are consistent.

I am seeing some benchmarks perform a lot worse than on the Orion O6 and MS-R1 though, so maybe some further improvements could be made. This is the first time I’ve seen idle power on this chip go below 10W, which is nice. But it’s still a lot more than quasi-comparable chips like the A18 Pro in the Neo (2.8W) and the AI 340 in the base model AMD Framework 13 board (2.7W)

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Have you managed to get the Immortalis G720 MC10 GPU to work on Linux?

Yes, at least Vulkan was working on the iGPU when I was testing with GravityMark, and it is recognized in GLMark2 as well. I have only tested so far with the official Ubuntu 25.04 install provided by MetaComputing.

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I have posted a full video and blog post with my experiences with this board:

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Towards the beginning of the video, you wonder if it has some of the problems you found with the Minisforum’s MS-R1.
But i don’t think that question is answered in the video.
What were the problems with the MSR1 and does this board have the same problem or not?

That being said, i am guessing the problem is the difficulty in running more up to date kernels on it.

Two major ones: kernel support (still an issue), and idle power consumption (still an issue, but at least it’s 7.9W instead of 12-14W). This board adds a third, though, and that is odd performance on the HPL (FP64) benchmark that is memory/thermal-constrained. No matter what I tried, I could only get a result half that of the MS-R1 and Orion O6. See more here: Benchmark MetaComputing AI PC Framework 13 Mainboard with Cix CP8180 · Issue #94 · geerlingguy/top500-benchmark · GitHub

Their kernel is based on 6.6.89.
Most of the commits they have done since then are fairly minor, except for this one:

CIX P1 2025Q3 RELEASE

That one is huge, it would take a while to get that commit so that it can be applied to a more modern Linux kernel. I.e. the mainline kernel. But at least the source code is there, so the task is easier than it being a binary blob kernel.

I did a similar exercise on another board, so it could use modern Linux kernels: