So I know there’s a recent post about how long the chassis will be supported, but I think the idea behind this one warrants a new topic.
My thought for this is what do you think the likelihood of having a case available for the FW16? I’m thinking like a Cooler Master case like the FW13 has, but for FW16 and it would need to support the expansion bay.
Really this is less of having questions and looking more for discussion. I’m super stoked to get my FW16! I was thinking the FW16 could be a pretty good small form factor PC. Something small like a laptop but be more of a stationary PC that doesn’t take up much room while still being upgradable.
This thought came to me while working on some VR stuff tonight. Having a dedicated PC for a VR headset for the family where they don’t need to use my laptop or desktop (desktop being way too big for being in the living room). Something really small that can be tucked away near the router.
I’m sure there will be a CoolerMaster-like case for the FW16. But an official Framework case might not come until a next gen FW16 mainboard comes out. Since that was the biggest drive for the FW13 case, an easy way to reuse your old mainboard. Would be nice if it came sooner, but Framework doesn’t have any shortage of things they want to do, and there is only so much they can work on at once.
Before there was the CoolerMaster case, Framework did post files for us to 3D print a case. We might get one for the FW16. There are services that will do 3D prints for you if you don’t have a printer. Like craftcloud3d.com
At this Point I wouldn’t be too surprised, if an excellent community designed case will be the go-to for a while. I do agree though that there will definitely be an official (prbly cooler master) case sooner or later.
But also: since FW publishes everything you need, there might be community cases for specific or niche use cases. And there probably already are some for FWL13
Well, over in the ‘what do we build next’ thread I suggested that they build a NAS box around the FW16 board. They already have a PCB design that allows NVME drives to be attached to the Expansion Bay PCIe lines, so essentially all they need is a box.
Now it doesn’t take much thought to see that what you are suggesting here, and what I suggested over there could have a common case design. The expansion bay area could be arranged to have multiple uses quite readily, including making it large enough for a next gen GPU. After all any free standing box like you and I are suggesting will want to be thicker than the FW16 base, so the expansion bay area could be set up as a multi-use area fairly easily.
In short, it’s harder than the 13, the size is a problem, they might have you combine something from the hardware store with some 3d printable parts, but they do intend to, although it sounds like they may wait til they have a 2nd gen motherboard (That is, when people start having spare motherboards coming out of laptops). He also mentions they would like to do another coolermaster case for the 16 as well.
Would be nice to have a choice of a Cooler Master case like the FW13, but also a mini PC case that lets you break out the PCIe to traditional slots for a GPU or other things. If they can somehow make the mini PC case also configurable as a NAS enclosure (PCIE breakout to SATA back plane instead), that would make the mini PC case more versatile.
Has anyone been able to take measurements and start doing CAD work on it? I personally don’t have the tools, time, or skills to do that kinda stuff.
More thought so this: I don’t really expect a something super compact like the FW13 Cooler Master case, but maybe something like a very small mini-tower or desktop (even smaller than ITX). There is a market for mini PCs, and while this will be larger than those “NUC” style ones (which, if you’re into those, you’re probably more likely looking at the FW13 as a starting point anyways), I’m imagining something slightly bigger if based on the FW16 board.
As I stated almost 6 months ago, I’m thinking of something that can use this board and make it versatile - it’ll basically become the a whole new mini PC form-factor. This is how I am seeing Framework laptops - they are ushering a new “standard” of form factors for laptops and possibly mini systems based on those parts.
For the FW16, I would love to see a breakout from their PCI-E pads to a full-size PCI-E slot as an option. The case could either be laid flat or stand up like a desktop or a tower. Would make for a great home theater or PC-based gaming console (think Bazzite/SteamOS/Chimera), or even a relatively powerful server.
I don’t expect to see FW16 boards to be used as SteamDeck-like devices (although I guess someone can surprise me!). But that’s what I love about the creator space, and I love how Framework fits well into this space!
Unfortunately, I still cannot find any 3D printable or official MB cases for the FW16. It’s really sad TBH because I really want to upgrade my mainboard someday and reuse the last one as a home theatre or server PC maybe even a low end gaming one, not sure, but maybe one will pop up one of these days.
I got a few mainboards with the recent round of mystery boxes, and was definitely surprised to find that no one has bothered to design a printable FW16 case yet. Once I finish printing the parts needed to build one of my mainboards into a full FW16 laptop, I’ll take a stab at designing one. The main aspect I’m unsure about how best to tackle is the thermals, since I don’t plan on getting another few sets of expansion bays. Also since I’ve got a few more screens with the mystery boxes, my FW16-desktop cases will likely be designed to include those, even though many people won’t have a screen to connect.
Whenever I do get around to designing and printing this, I’ll definitely make sure to post the design on Printables. If I happen to remember I’ll make a post in these forums about it, and/or a follow-up comment here, but I somewhat doubt that I’ll remember.
I feel like doing the battery underneath the mainboard and expansion cards would be superb for a UPS for a home server. I wonder if I should learn Blender and just make one aswell, fortunately the outer case of the FW16 is on GitHub.
As I just posted about here, the version of the outer case model on Github isn’t very detailed, unfortunately. It has the general shape, but none of the mounting holes or other details we really need to make a sturdy or reliable mount. Hopefully Framework can release some more precise documentation or more detailed models, which would make this project a lot easier!
Thanks for letting me know! Whoever has their hands on just the bottom case or bottom case kit should use a high detail scanner and then maybe turn it into a router looking little case or something
There’s a lot of luck involved in spotting that they’re available before they sell out, and I believe they’re currently only offered in North America, but you can buy them whenever they come back into stock here, as a great way to get a good deal on mainboards and other components, which may be damaged or not work (but also might still work fine when you’re lucky, or be fixable!). I’d recommend subscribing to the email notifications, as they sell out within minutes to hours of becoming available!
